Late Night: Marriage Rights Rally in DC and the Spanish Inquisition

 

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition. Surprise! Its supporters are in Washington DC, marching with NOM in protest  of marriage equality.

Tradition, Family & Property, a far-right Catholic organization whose founder cited the Spanish Inquisition as “a glorious moment” for the church. The Inquisition burned more than 1,000 Jews at the stake, confiscated the property of tens of thousands, and ultimately led to the expulsion of all Jews from Spain in 1492…

TFP is an all-male organization that finds its recruits among adolescent boys, whom it trains in the use of the combat regalia of the Middle Ages — maces, crossbows, and the like…

Adele M. Stan, who also covered TFP in 2010, writing for AlterNet, reports:

In South America, TFP is known for backing authoritarian regimes; it was involved in the 1964 military coup in Brazil, according to researcher  Richard Bartholomew, who also notes that after the coup against Allende in Chile, “[t]he editor of TFP’s Chilean magazine, Jaime Guzmán, became chief ideologist for General Pinochet’s regime.”

 

Washington is awash in pride as proud families and couples, gay and straight, march and rally outside the Supreme Court. Meanwhile inside Scalia says he has a

Longstanding and profound fear of homosexuals

so should he just recuse himself? I have friends who are afraid of clowns, cats, dogs, spiders, avocados…but teh gays? Like, why?

I wish he would look at this video from Mark S. King’s blog My Fabulous Disease. How can anyone be afraid of people who love and just want the option of marrying, to have the same rights as straight folks if they do marry?   And why do I think that the issue is more about money than religion–so for decades same-sex couples have been paying higher taxes (single payer filing) and their domestic partner insurance is taxed.  CNN Money explains:

A same-sex couple with combined income of $100,000, in which one person earns $70,000 and the other makes $30,000, currently pays an extra $1,625 a year by filing separately rather than jointly, according to an analysis H&R Block conducted for CNNMoney. The calculations assume a standard deduction, no children and no tax credits.

The extra tax liability jumps to nearly $8,000 when one spouse earns all $100,000 and the other reports no income. In this case, couples filing jointly owe tax of $11,858, while a same-sex couple filing separately owes $19,585 — a 65 percent difference….
Another major tax issue at stake in the DOMA case is the estate tax. Currently, surviving spouses in federally-recognized marriages don’t have to pay taxes on their deceased spouse’s estate, while same-sex widows pay a 35 percent estate tax on anything in excess of a $5 million exemption.

But it’s pointed out that some couples could end up paying more:

Other couples would end up owing more by filing jointly, especially if they miss out on deductions or credits like the Earned Income Tax Credit and the Child Tax Credit because, when combined, their income is no longer low enough to qualify or receive the full benefit.

 

21 Responses to "Late Night: Marriage Rights Rally in DC and the Spanish Inquisition"
ThingsComeUndone | Tuesday March 26, 2013 08:13 pm 1

Tradition, Family & Property,

The name sounds like the GOP platform what about helping the poor and the sick or stopping injustice/evil?
In a world full of genocide, torture etc Gays getting married, Gays wanting monogamy which last I checked the Church thought was pro family…well just what is the harm to marriage?
Gays getting married won’t make me decide to join their team. As far as adoption goes anyone who loves kids and is stable mentally and economically should be able to adopt.


ThingsComeUndone | Tuesday March 26, 2013 08:14 pm 2

Given the current Priest scandal should we be listening to the Pope lecture US about sex?


ThingsComeUndone | Tuesday March 26, 2013 08:15 pm 3

Just how many Right Wing church groups are there?


Lisa Derrick | Tuesday March 26, 2013 08:18 pm 4
In response to ThingsComeUndone @ 3

more than there are Right Wing Churches, it seems!


ThingsComeUndone | Tuesday March 26, 2013 08:21 pm 5

This Pope did nothing publicly when the Army was killing Lefties and sending their kids to be adopted by people who supported the Army killing Lefties. Scalia was talking about Gay adoption today. Sending kids to be adopted by their parents murders and their supporters is worse!
Argentina is a Catholic country any bets the Church handled adoptions back then?
Which raises an interesting point the Church did the same in Spain under Franco. So Argentina was not a one shot case we should be asking if the Catholic Church should be handling adoptions at all in any country.


ThingsComeUndone | Tuesday March 26, 2013 08:25 pm 6

The Church can’t get anyone in the Pews the Average age of Priests and Nuns is around or past the retirement age but the Church is now trying to show Grass Roots political support with a few rallies.
This reminds me of the Tea Bag protests and the Diaries I wrote on FDL about how the Tea Baggers had less people at their protests than the immigration rights rallies.
The Tea Baggers now poll behind Muslims and Atheists. But the Church wants a big show of public support to claim the polls showing majority support for Gay Marriage are fake.


ThingsComeUndone | Tuesday March 26, 2013 08:28 pm 7

I recently read somewhere that a GOPer was claiming the polls showing support for Gay Marriage are wrong never mind O got reelected and every Gay Marriage hater new where O stood on this issue.


marymccurnin | Tuesday March 26, 2013 08:31 pm 8

Scalia says he has a longstanding and profound fear of homosexuals.

What century was he born in again?


ThingsComeUndone | Tuesday March 26, 2013 08:32 pm 9

I am betting the Supremes duck this case another Bush vs Gore will not do the Right any good.


ThingsComeUndone | Tuesday March 26, 2013 08:33 pm 10

Scalia says he has a longstanding and profound fear of homosexuals.

Why fear Gay marriage unless you are tempted by it:)


EvilDrPuma | Tuesday March 26, 2013 08:33 pm 11
In response to marymccurnin @ 8

The twentieth, of course. You know…Jim Crow, anti-miscegenation, separate but equal, barefoot and pregnant, Star of David patches. The good old days.


onitgoes | Tuesday March 26, 2013 08:36 pm 12
In response to marymccurnin @ 8

Maybe some Priest fiddled with Fat Tony when he was a kid. Not kidding. Lot of that going on. Sexually abused kids can end up pretty messed up.


Lisa Derrick | Tuesday March 26, 2013 08:37 pm 13

I could never understand why the unfair taxation issue was not taken up the the Tea Partiers..I mean they”re all about how taxes are unfair,and or some citizens to be prevented from paying lower taxes and using things their tax dollars pay for (like family national parks discounts and fishing licenses…)

Oh wait, never mind, that’s NOT what the Tea Party was actually about…silly me!


marymccurnin | Tuesday March 26, 2013 08:39 pm 14
In response to EvilDrPuma @ 11

I was just thinking about Hitler and the gays. Why is it that authoritarians hate the gay? Could it be cause they have a mind of their own and refuse to stop the nasty gay touchy touch stuff?


ThingsComeUndone | Tuesday March 26, 2013 08:43 pm 15
In response to marymccurnin @ 14

Hitler had the SA which was like the SS they were Gay Nazis on the downlow but when Hitler got to power he had them all killed when he did not need them anymore.
So yes the Right is conflicted about Gays Hoover, Ray Cohen and if we believe the rummors Senator McCarthy were all Gay.


ThingsComeUndone | Tuesday March 26, 2013 08:45 pm 16

I could never understand why the unfair taxation issue was not taken up the the Tea Partiers..I mean they”re all about how taxes are unfair,and or some citizens to be prevented from paying lower taxes

Tea baggers only care about Straight White Men paying to much taxes.


ThingsComeUndone | Tuesday March 26, 2013 08:46 pm 17
In response to ThingsComeUndone @ 16

The Tea Baggers for example don’t give a shit about illegal immigrants paying SS taxes using fake SS cards when illegal immigrants will never get to collect that SS money.


chicago dyke | Tuesday March 26, 2013 08:49 pm 18
In response to marymccurnin @ 14

self hating people are always the worst. self hating blacks, gays, jews… if you want some cringe-inducing history, look up those folks.

it’s tough to want to be something you’re not, so badly you’ll do or say anything. it’s worse to be so immoral, you’ll say anything for money, do anything for money. so many self-haters want just that: money, and acceptance in a community of rich people who will never accept them.

in HS we used to call people like this “sad” and “losers.” i still do. i have pity for them. but i don’t excuse them. b/c i know that if you take the money out of the equation, they’d be like the rest of us, and realize they have no choice but to try to find a real job.


ThingsComeUndone | Tuesday March 26, 2013 08:53 pm 19

I hope we get some more stupid Scalia quotes to snark on as this case goes on. Scalia just makes the GOP more unpopular.


ThingsComeUndone | Tuesday March 26, 2013 08:54 pm 20

If Scalia keeps talking we very well might see support for Gay Marriage go up in the polls:)


Petrocelli | Tuesday March 26, 2013 09:47 pm 21
In response to EvilDrPuma @ 11

Touché !

JHFC …come on America, join the 21st Century !


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