Late Night: Food, Weed and Black Metal

I like fois gras, and the state of California now wants to pry the fatted duck liver off my fork. But this is America, and there’s room for all sorts of food lovers, from tattooed fois gras fans to vegan black metal chefs.

And thus I am very confused about this whole states rights issue that Obama brought up re: marriage equality. Like, it’s okay for states to decide if people can get married or not, and the Federal government won’t interfere, but when states decide that medical marijuana is legal, the Feds jump in and say

NO WEED!

Could some explain that to me?

97 Responses to "Late Night: Food, Weed and Black Metal"
Dearie | Tuesday May 15, 2012 08:04 pm 1

There is no explanation, dear. They are gonna fuck with us no matter what we do. Keep your pitchfork sharpened. You’ll need it.

And fois gras is delicious.

And Obama’s assault on marijuana is, I suppose, a gift to PhARMA … until they can figure out how to frisk us for whatever we have left.


masaccio | Tuesday May 15, 2012 08:05 pm 2

Reasons? We don’t need no stinkin’ reasons.


Dearie | Tuesday May 15, 2012 08:07 pm 3
In response to Dearie @ 1

Plus, we gotta keep the for-profit prisons full. It’s all so simple, really.


DrDick | Tuesday May 15, 2012 08:08 pm 4

Lisa!

Looking for consistency in government policies is a sure route to madness.


EvilDrPuma | Tuesday May 15, 2012 08:10 pm 5

I think Dearie has a lot of it figured out – and in addition to feeding the profit prisons, it feeds the surveillance state and its attendant industries. Letting gays get married just doesn’t have the profit and power motives attached to it.


marymccurnin | Tuesday May 15, 2012 08:10 pm 6

Rational behavior on the part of politicians does not exist. Weed is illegal because, damn it, they said so. There is NO other reason except for the ignorant factor.


marymccurnin | Tuesday May 15, 2012 08:11 pm 7

oh and what Dearie said, too.


Dearie | Tuesday May 15, 2012 08:11 pm 8

I said it once, and I’m gonna say it again: Sugar is the gateway drug. Live with it!


DrDick | Tuesday May 15, 2012 08:12 pm 9
In response to Dearie @ 3

I do think the prison-industrial complex drives far too much of our policy regarding law and justice. In the case of marijuana, however, I think is mostly that Obama has a bit of a moderate puritanical streak, sort of like an uptight maiden aunt. It shows up a lot in how he frames things.


marymccurnin | Tuesday May 15, 2012 08:13 pm 10

No, oxygen is the ultimate gateway drug. Once you have tried it you can’t stop until it kills you like 85 years later.


DrDick | Tuesday May 15, 2012 08:14 pm 11
In response to marymccurnin @ 6

I think it is that middle class puritanism that insists that drugs are bad and the general tendency to make personal life and health morality plays.


Lisa Derrick | Tuesday May 15, 2012 08:15 pm 12
In response to marymccurnin @ 10

I love oxygen bars. One good reason to go to Vegas. One of the few actually. I wonder if I can find one here in LA?

Oh, I had yak today at lunch.


Dearie | Tuesday May 15, 2012 08:16 pm 13
In response to DrDick @ 9

I so agree! He is definitely the uptight maiden aunt. My sister and I were recently regaling each other with tales of the horrendous….
the most abusive person in our childhood was the righteous, uptight, aggrieved, Nurse Rached, maiden aunt. I shudder still. And Obama brings it all back, in spades, as it were.


Petrocelli | Tuesday May 15, 2012 08:17 pm 14
In response to Dearie @ 8

Sugar Sugar … to be exact … *g*

Lisa !


DrDick | Tuesday May 15, 2012 08:18 pm 15
In response to Lisa Derrick @ 12

How is it?


Dearie | Tuesday May 15, 2012 08:18 pm 16
In response to marymccurnin @ 10

Heh!


marymccurnin | Tuesday May 15, 2012 08:18 pm 17
In response to Lisa Derrick @ 12

My daughter is a nurse in Vegas. She said you can get a nurse to come to your room to give you an IV to cure a hangover.


Lisa Derrick | Tuesday May 15, 2012 08:19 pm 18

Oh here’s some news: Sugar can make people dumb.


Dearie | Tuesday May 15, 2012 08:20 pm 19
In response to marymccurnin @ 17

If you’ve got the money!


Petrocelli | Tuesday May 15, 2012 08:20 pm 20
In response to Lisa Derrick @ 12

Jeebus … you had Lunch in Nepal ? Tibet ?

*Ducks and runs*


Lisa Derrick | Tuesday May 15, 2012 08:20 pm 21

I don;t drink enough to ever get hung over, thankfully.


sfmikey | Tuesday May 15, 2012 08:20 pm 22

Bleah! I hate liver, goose or otherwise. Evil flavor.


AitchD | Tuesday May 15, 2012 08:20 pm 23

If you drive in New Hampshire, can you get a license plate without the ‘Live Free Or Die’ motto? I know I can’t get a New Hampshire license plate for my car here in North Carolina. My plate says ‘First In Flight’, which isn’t exactly the same as Ohio’s plates that say ‘Birthplace Of Aviation”.

Thought experiment: Would you smoke weed if it was legal but only as Monsanto’s GMO pot?


DrDick | Tuesday May 15, 2012 08:22 pm 24
In response to Lisa Derrick @ 18

Makes me glad I do not drink sweetened drinks and eat very little else with added sweeteners in it.


Lisa Derrick | Tuesday May 15, 2012 08:23 pm 25
In response to Petrocelli @ 20

EvilDrPuma | Tuesday May 15, 2012 08:23 pm 26
In response to AitchD @ 23

No. I have no interest in smoking weed anyway; I just think weed prohibition is a waste of resources and a gateway to a police state.


DrDick | Tuesday May 15, 2012 08:24 pm 27
In response to Petrocelli @ 20

One of our grad students spent last year in Nepal. I will have to ask her if she ate any yak. I know she is not a big fan of butter tea.


sfmikey | Tuesday May 15, 2012 08:26 pm 28
In response to EvilDrPuma @ 26

You can have it in a cookie. /*g


marymccurnin | Tuesday May 15, 2012 08:26 pm 29
In response to AitchD @ 23

God will punish Monsanto big time if they fuck up his weed. oh wait, I’m a non-believer.


DrDick | Tuesday May 15, 2012 08:27 pm 30
In response to AitchD @ 23

No, but I am violently allergic to weed and can only imagine what that might do to me. Smoked a whole lot of it in my youth, but not so much for the last couple of decades and nothing for the last decade.


sfmikey | Tuesday May 15, 2012 08:27 pm 31

I hate mollusks and bivalves. And I am unanimous in that.


DrDick | Tuesday May 15, 2012 08:28 pm 32
In response to sfmikey @ 31

Boy, you hate all the good stuff. Just leaves more of it for me, I guess.


Dearie | Tuesday May 15, 2012 08:28 pm 33

And, really, how is fois gras any worse than shucking and oyster and sucking it down? (And I am NOT giving up oysters! Delish!) But the oysters shuck easily….it’s the clams that fight back. Is it ethically okay to eat raw oysters because they don’t fight back?


Petrocelli | Tuesday May 15, 2012 08:28 pm 34
In response to DrDick @ 27

The Tibetans and Nepalese are the most serene people I’ve ever met … really wonderful and most of them are Vegetarians.


AitchD | Tuesday May 15, 2012 08:28 pm 35
In response to EvilDrPuma @ 26

Yep. Before Reagan, there was always a urine test for every drug except cannabis, and drug testing was never required except in extreme circumstances. Once a urine test for cannabis had been developed, testing entered the society everywhere. And why is that?


DrDick | Tuesday May 15, 2012 08:31 pm 36
In response to Dearie @ 33

They are obviously giving themselves to you gratefully. ;-)


Petrocelli | Tuesday May 15, 2012 08:31 pm 37
In response to Lisa Derrick @ 25

There is more Persian-origin cuisine there than anything else …

Having said that, cooking any meat with those spices and yogurt would make it very tasty.


Lisa Derrick | Tuesday May 15, 2012 08:31 pm 38
In response to AitchD @ 23

I dont smoke pot—


Dearie | Tuesday May 15, 2012 08:31 pm 39

I don’t partake of the holy weed, but after reading about how it helps with MS, if I ever got MS, I’d, for sure!, get me a supplier. And if I get old and inflamed, then I’d like to have access. Get off my porch!


BargainCountertenor | Tuesday May 15, 2012 08:32 pm 40

Howdy folks.

I prefer decapods to cephalopods to bivalves. What’s yak like, Lisa?


marymccurnin | Tuesday May 15, 2012 08:32 pm 41
In response to Dearie @ 33

yes.


AitchD | Tuesday May 15, 2012 08:32 pm 42
In response to Petrocelli @ 34

Petro!

Do Canadians beat Tofu pups?


EvilDrPuma | Tuesday May 15, 2012 08:32 pm 43
In response to BargainCountertenor @ 40

It’s like beef, only shaggier.


DrDick | Tuesday May 15, 2012 08:33 pm 44
In response to Petrocelli @ 34

I have never really asked her about the food, but I sort of got the impression that there was not much meat involved. As to serene, not so much. Her area was heavily influenced by the Maoist revolutionaries and most families had members conscripted by them. It is also very impoverished region, which does not promote serenity.


sfmikey | Tuesday May 15, 2012 08:34 pm 45
In response to DrDick @ 32

Merlot and steak works for me a couple’a times a year. Not a vegetarian (used to be) but you can’t drink a V-8 without a percentage of aphids and grub worms. Protein bonuses, I figure.


AitchD | Tuesday May 15, 2012 08:35 pm 46
In response to Lisa Derrick @ 38

Neither do I because I don’t have any.


marymccurnin | Tuesday May 15, 2012 08:35 pm 47
In response to AitchD @ 35

Drug testing is really just for weed. You can quit your drug of choice and in 24 hours it will be out of your system. Weed lasts for weeks. So, when you go in for a job interview you only get in trouble for dope if you have any brains.


Petrocelli | Tuesday May 15, 2012 08:35 pm 48
In response to Dearie @ 33

The Ducks’ Bills are kept open while they get force fed constantly, to fatten and expand the Liver – the people who protest against animal testing/cruelty are also behind the effort to ban Fois Gras …


DrDick | Tuesday May 15, 2012 08:36 pm 49
In response to sfmikey @ 45

You do not even want to think about what goes into canned and frozen food. I worked in a canning factory for a while in Oklahoma in the frozen food section.


BargainCountertenor | Tuesday May 15, 2012 08:37 pm 50
In response to DrDick @ 44

I had occasion a few years ago to escort a group of Tibetan monks around Our Fair City. They were definitely not vegetarians, and left me with the impression that animal products were important in the Tibetan diet.


Petrocelli | Tuesday May 15, 2012 08:37 pm 51
In response to AitchD @ 42

AitchD !

Sorry but that went over my Head … please explain


BargainCountertenor | Tuesday May 15, 2012 08:39 pm 52
In response to DrDick @ 49

The Jungle, by Upton Sinclair.

“I aimed for the Nation’s heart and hit it in the stomach,” U. Sinclar about his novel.


Dearie | Tuesday May 15, 2012 08:39 pm 53
In response to Petrocelli @ 48

I worked for a judge once who said they wanted it………


DrDick | Tuesday May 15, 2012 08:40 pm 54
In response to marymccurnin @ 47

They are also looking for amphetamines, which causes a lot of false positives from people taking cold medicines (pseudoephedrine is a precursor and tests positive).


marymccurnin | Tuesday May 15, 2012 08:40 pm 55
In response to DrDick @ 54

amphetamines are nasty, nasty, nasty.


BargainCountertenor | Tuesday May 15, 2012 08:41 pm 56
In response to Petrocelli @ 48

Geese, non?


Dearie | Tuesday May 15, 2012 08:42 pm 57

At least no one ever implied that the oysters wanted it……..


sfmikey | Tuesday May 15, 2012 08:42 pm 58
In response to DrDick @ 49

It all scares me, DrDick, even the better restaurants. I guess I prefer not to know….


DrDick | Tuesday May 15, 2012 08:42 pm 59
In response to BargainCountertenor @ 50

A lot of South Asian Buddhists are vegetarians, but not vegans (they eat a lot of dairy products). Most Buddhist monks I have known, however, ate no meat or eggs.


AitchD | Tuesday May 15, 2012 08:43 pm 60
In response to Petrocelli @ 51

I used to see films and photos of Maritimers beating seal pups.


DrDick | Tuesday May 15, 2012 08:43 pm 61
In response to BargainCountertenor @ 52

It is better than it was back then, but still not for the squeamish.


Petrocelli | Tuesday May 15, 2012 08:43 pm 62
In response to BargainCountertenor @ 56

Sacre bleu !

How are you, BCT ?


AitchD | Tuesday May 15, 2012 08:46 pm 63
In response to DrDick @ 54

No one was looking for anything until they had a test for pot.

“That don’t make sense, now, do it?”–Warren Beatty as Clyde Barrow


BargainCountertenor | Tuesday May 15, 2012 08:47 pm 64
In response to DrDick @ 59

I was definitely surprised. I’ve known a few Nichiren monks and one Zen monk: all were vegetarians toward vegan.

Tibetan Buddhism differs from the East Asian versions I was familiar with.


DrDick | Tuesday May 15, 2012 08:49 pm 65
In response to BargainCountertenor @ 64

Very much so and I have to admit that all the Buddhist monks I have known (not very many) were East and Southeast Asian.


Petrocelli | Tuesday May 15, 2012 08:49 pm 66
In response to AitchD @ 60

Sadly, this still goes on but there is a global effort to ban it.


BargainCountertenor | Tuesday May 15, 2012 08:49 pm 67
In response to Petrocelli @ 62

Hangin’ in, Petro.

No joy yet on a job in SW oHIo, but I’ll keep looking. I hit my Department Head up today for an all on-line teaching assignment for next spring. He didn’t rule it out immediately.


Petrocelli | Tuesday May 15, 2012 08:51 pm 68
In response to BargainCountertenor @ 67

Best of Luck, Buddy !


BargainCountertenor | Tuesday May 15, 2012 08:52 pm 69
In response to DrDick @ 61

I read The Jungle for background when I was working for a state public health department. Before reading it, I was only familiar with its effects (formation of the FDA and USDA food inspection). After reading it, I understood the effects but I was stunned by how little of the book took place in the Chicago stockyards and packing plants.


BargainCountertenor | Tuesday May 15, 2012 08:53 pm 70
In response to Petrocelli @ 68

Thankee kindly.


DrDick | Tuesday May 15, 2012 08:54 pm 71
In response to BargainCountertenor @ 67

Heh. I had the opportunity to get one of my classes that I normally teach online in the classroom and pushed for it this past semester. I am glad I did, but in retrospect, it is a lot less demanding having one of my classes online. Prepping and lecturing in 4 different classes every week is pretty damned demanding.


DrDick | Tuesday May 15, 2012 08:56 pm 72
In response to BargainCountertenor @ 69

Yeah. Sinclair wrote the book to highlight the wretched lives of the workers, but what people took away was the horrific conditions in the packing houses.


BargainCountertenor | Tuesday May 15, 2012 09:05 pm 73
In response to DrDick @ 71

I’m dubious about on-line courses. I think it might be possible to do a decent job teaching Statistics on-line, but I’m not sure.

On the other hand, it would be really nice to see my wife every night. If it turns out to be a wash pedagogically (or better), I’ll propose modifying my schedule along that line permanently. Spend the Fall term here and Spring term there. My research I can conduct here or there — if I can arrange a courtesy affiliation with UC I could actually do better research there. Our library’s holdings in my field suck and are getting worse. When I was hired, part of my start-up funding went to expand the library holdings slightly. That stuff evaporated in the first round of library budget cuts.


BargainCountertenor | Tuesday May 15, 2012 09:06 pm 74

I’m fading here, I think I’m going to go remove my contacts and examine the inside of my eyelids closely.

Good night, folks.


wmd1961 | Tuesday May 15, 2012 09:13 pm 75

Harry Anslinger is the explanation, at least originally. Why he still has influence has a lot to do with “law and order” and “soft on crime” political memes.


Larue-Clique Member Since LibbyGate | Tuesday May 15, 2012 09:16 pm 76

There’s no ‘splainin to be had, ma’am.

Unless you write the script, the kabuki continues unabated.

It’s kinda boring tho, as we all know what, why and the desired outcome ending of the show . . .

N we’re all grown ups here n know it’s not in our favor, that ending.

On we trudge.

Obama lies, they all lie, end of story.


Larue-Clique Member Since LibbyGate | Tuesday May 15, 2012 09:19 pm 77
In response to EvilDrPuma @ 5

Fully agreed.

Ferenghi as hell, ain’t it.

Only these fuckers aren’t HALF as friendly or interesting as Ferehghi.


Larue-Clique Member Since LibbyGate | Tuesday May 15, 2012 09:21 pm 78
In response to masaccio @ 2

Badges, badgers, reasons, it’s all the same.

It’s unsustainable.

*shrugs*

“Hey, I didn’t get a Harumph outta that guy! I’m watchin you buddy, I’m watchin you!”

*looselytranslated*


DrDick | Tuesday May 15, 2012 09:22 pm 79
In response to BargainCountertenor @ 74

Night! Time for me to toddle off as well. Take care all.


Larue-Clique Member Since LibbyGate | Tuesday May 15, 2012 09:24 pm 80
In response to marymccurnin @ 10

Immediately flashed on a New Years Eve show at Winterland. Left side seats, someone had a tank of laffin gas, on top of the weed, red wine, hash, and such, by 3am many people had had a lot of fun . . . love is like oxygen, too, also, ya betcha. ;-)


mzchief | Tuesday May 15, 2012 09:25 pm 81
In response to EvilDrPuma @ 43

And much feistier so that you never turn your back on one unless you want to be butted in the derrière.


Kit OConnell | Tuesday May 15, 2012 09:26 pm 82

I made this EXACT comparison tonight (comparing weed & marriage as ‘states rights’) during conversations at Occupy Austin.

Also, isn’t it remarkable how much the phrase ‘states rights’ has been meant so many different kinds of coded things over the years depending on who says it? Kind of like ‘diversity of tactics.’


Larue-Clique Member Since LibbyGate | Tuesday May 15, 2012 09:27 pm 83
In response to Petrocelli @ 14

*facepalm*

OMFG he cites the effing Archies.

*justshootme*


Larue-Clique Member Since LibbyGate | Tuesday May 15, 2012 09:30 pm 84
In response to AitchD @ 35

Ferenghi Theorem Of Acquisition #2.

Profit is everything.


Larue-Clique Member Since LibbyGate | Tuesday May 15, 2012 09:34 pm 85
In response to marymccurnin @ 47

Actually, THC lasts for 3 months depending on ingestion levels and body types . . . but the most broad interpretation is one toke might show up much later . . . a weekend at a fest will likely last 3 months given semi regular doses.

Brownies made with pot butter are really bad, testing wise.

Or at least that’s what all my fest pals tell me . . .


mzchief | Tuesday May 15, 2012 09:35 pm 86
In response to DrDick @ 59

The Tibetan, Navajo and Hopi recognize each other. For those male and female monastics, the meat, eggs, garlic and onions are not advised as these may make it difficult for them to do their monastic thing. But, among the Tibetans, if one constitutionally can or should have the proteins, the Emchis (Tibetan doctors) will be OK with it including any medically necessary prescribed pharmaceuticals. Their medical system has similarities to the Chinese medical system except they don’t use needle acupuncture but do use moxa and employs the reading of the 27 pulses. The few Emchis I have worked with are *very* good.


Larue-Clique Member Since LibbyGate | Tuesday May 15, 2012 09:36 pm 87
In response to Petrocelli @ 48

IT’s cruel, disgusting and horrid.

N I’m a long time worker and foodie in the biz.

I was agin it then, I’m agin it now.


Dearie | Tuesday May 15, 2012 09:37 pm 88

I’m lost in the ether here…………and oysters are still delicious.


Talcott | Tuesday May 15, 2012 09:38 pm 89

Barry’s a pawn and there are alot of people relying on him

to keep the price of ganja high… ;p


Dearie | Tuesday May 15, 2012 09:40 pm 90

I’ve driven up the 5 and seen the cattle standing in the mud. Do you eat beef?


mzchief | Tuesday May 15, 2012 09:40 pm 91

The video is hilarious, Lisa, and I give it super duper comedy style points!


JoeBuck | Tuesday May 15, 2012 09:55 pm 92

If you like foie gras, you might enjoy monkfish liver. Get it at a Japanese restaurant, they’ll do it right, and you can imagine you’re having your foie gras with caviar.


ChristineEdmonson | Tuesday May 15, 2012 09:58 pm 93

Try as I may, I can’t make either video play.


MBouffant | Wednesday May 16, 2012 12:50 am 94

No organ meats!!


tanbark | Wednesday May 16, 2012 03:45 am 95

Baaaad Lisa…for reminding us of this little piece of cognitive dissonance about Obama and “states rights” re:

Pot and Gays. :o)

Shame on you for not joining up with the “WE SUCK LESS!” gang. :o)


SmileySam | Wednesday May 16, 2012 06:35 am 96

Hillary was asked about ending the drug prohibition a few months ago and in a surprisingly candid moment she said it was because there was way too much money involved and that someone should try following the money. I’d bet money she had a small wry grin and was a bit tongue and cheek when she said it. I know it really hit me hard to hear her just come out and say something so plain and honest that the general public would never take it serious.


bluefloridia | Wednesday May 16, 2012 08:15 am 97

Genesis 1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is on the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

So, what’s with the government? Nope. No votes. No donations. Nope. God’s law trumps Big Pharma and this little man of a President. He lied. As Michael Moore said…”you’ve been had”….


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