Late Night FDL: Michele Bachmann’s Intellectual Influences

 

Michele Bachmann. Uh oh. In the New Yorker‘s August 15th  Bachmann profile by Ryan Lizza, the presidential candidate proves herself to be way more intellectual than Sarah Palin.

Bachmann once served on the board of  directors of Summit Ministries–an educational organization founded to reverse the harmful effects of  “our current post-Christian culture.” Bachmann lauds David A. Noebel, Summit Ministries’ founder and director of Summit Ministries. Noebel is the author of the revelatory tracts as “The Homosexual Revolution: End Time Abomination,” and “Communism, Hypnotism, and the Beatles.” Bachmann has called Summit’s message

wonderful and worthwhile.

One of the recommended books listed on Bachmann’s State Senate campaign Web site (since removed per Lizza) was Call of Duty: The  Sterling Nobility of Robert E. Lee by J. Steven Wilkins an George Grant.  Here’s quote from page 303:

Slavery, as it operated in the pervasively Christian society which was the old South, was not an adversarial relationship founded upon racial animosity. In fact, it bred on the whole, not contempt, but, over time, mutual respect. This produced a mutual esteem of the sort that always results when men give themselves to a common cause. The credit for this startling reality must go to the Christian faith. . . . The unity and companionship that existed between the races in the South prior to the war was the fruit of a common faith.

Another high point in the Lee biography is a condemnation of the

radical abolitionists of the New England,

no doubt the descendents of folks whose minds were twisted by the Age of Reason, which was a direct outgrowth of the Renaissance, per another one of Bachmann’s fave thinkers, Francis Schaeffer, author of How Should We Then Live?.

A fundamentalist Christian, Schaeffer wrote and narrated the video series based on How Should We Then Think. In episode 6 Schaeffer explores the possibility that at some point the government might start controlling the populace through drugs in the water supply, much like hippies wanted to drop LSD in the reservoirs, illustrated by a man in a white van dumping chemicals into the sewer. But Schaeffer points out, with Christianity and accepting the Bible as an absolute, mankind can be saved from the moral vicissitudes of science.

This spring Bachmann told a crowd in Iowa that she and Marcus read How Should We Then Live?:

And so we had new eyes that were opened up as we understood life now from a Biblical world view.


In an video episode of How Should We Then Live? set in Italy, Schaeffer explains the meaning of Renaissance art (basically it shows man turning away from God and becoming more entranced with the secular) and cites the beauty of Florence, concluding with:

Humanism ends in despair.

Gods, let hope Bachmann’s campaign ends in despair for her and not for us.

 

65 Responses to "Late Night FDL: Michele Bachmann’s Intellectual Influences"
Lisa Derrick | Tuesday August 9, 2011 08:01 pm 1

Happy late night


Frank33 | Tuesday August 9, 2011 08:06 pm 2

The Beatles! Still more popular than Jesus.


DrDick | Tuesday August 9, 2011 08:07 pm 3

Lisa!

Awesome! A self admitted batshit crazy Talibangelical pro-slavery racist. What’s not to like there?


Lisa Derrick | Tuesday August 9, 2011 08:10 pm 4

I guess it was that song “Revolution” that might have scared Noeble…or just the long hair.


DrDick | Tuesday August 9, 2011 08:12 pm 5
In response to Lisa Derrick @ 4

That or maybe his shadow, or the monster under his bed, or perhaps what was in his closet.


ThingsComeUndone | Tuesday August 9, 2011 08:13 pm 6

“our current post-Christian culture.”

Is a direct result of forgetting JC saying give all of your goods to the poor if you would follow me and instead worshiping money or in Michelle’s case finding Gay people to scapegoat for all of America’s and her problems.
America’s and her problems are the same in her mind.


EvilDrPuma | Tuesday August 9, 2011 08:14 pm 7
In response to DrDick @ 3

“Evil, crazy, and stupid is no way to go through life, son.”
–with apologies to Dean Wormer


ThingsComeUndone | Tuesday August 9, 2011 08:14 pm 8

You can’t serve 2 masters Michelle or in your case the almighty dollar, Hate and JC.
I think you serve Hate.


Lisa Derrick | Tuesday August 9, 2011 08:15 pm 9

I saw Wacky-Bachy on Fox last night. She has had a slight make-over, looks a little tanner, make-up is slightly hipper, hait lighter and not as severe, and she make have had some filler or a light peel. Not that there’s anything wrong with that. And I would say the same about any of the male candidates.

And as a friend said, “They are using the Hubble telescope for a camera.” (far back shot)


ThingsComeUndone | Tuesday August 9, 2011 08:17 pm 10

and “Communism, Hypnotism, and the Beatles.” Bachmann has called Summit’s message

wonderful and worthwhile.

Michelle hates the Beatles? That will go over well with the baby boomers what kind of music does she like?


Lisa Derrick | Tuesday August 9, 2011 08:20 pm 11
In response to ThingsComeUndone @ 10

She doesn;t hate the Beatles (I donlt think she has expressed an opinion) but one of her mentors who she admires thinks they are Commie tool designed to destroy the youth of the America.


DrDick | Tuesday August 9, 2011 08:21 pm 12
In response to EvilDrPuma @ 7

Say what you will, at least it is an ethos.


ThingsComeUndone | Tuesday August 9, 2011 08:21 pm 13

Slavery, as it operated in the pervasively Christian society which was the old South, was not an adversarial relationship founded upon racial animosity. In fact, it bred on the whole, not contempt, but, over time, mutual respect. This produced a mutual esteem of the sort that always results when men give themselves to a common cause. The credit for this startling reality must go to the Christian faith. . . . The unity and companionship that existed between the races in the South prior to the war was the fruit of a common faith.

No it was the whips, the punishment, the dogs and guys with guns chasing you if you tried to escape?
Does Michelle watch the HBO series OZ and think its great love story? Oh wait there are Gays in that series. Does Michelle like abusive Stalker type men who say I own you, your mine Mine! My Property!


ThingsComeUndone | Tuesday August 9, 2011 08:22 pm 14

She doesn;t hate the Beatles (I donlt think she has expressed an opinion) but one of her mentors who she admires thinks they are Commie tool designed to destroy the youth of the America.

We should ask her opinion…on National TV:)


EvilDrPuma | Tuesday August 9, 2011 08:22 pm 15
In response to ThingsComeUndone @ 10

…what kind of music does she like?

Both kinds…Country and Western.


Lisa Derrick | Tuesday August 9, 2011 08:25 pm 16

From Noebel’s pamphlet:

The Communists, through their scientists, educators and entertainers, have contrived an elaborate, calculating and scientific technique directed at rendering a generation of American youth useless through nerve-jamming, mental deterioration and retardation. The plan involves conditioned reflexes, hypnotism and certain kinds of music. The results, destined to destroy our nation, are precise and exacting. Little wonder the Kremlin maintains it will not raise the Red flag over America—the Americans will raise it themselves. If the following scientific program destined to make our children mentally sick is not exposed, mentally degenerated Americans will indeed raise the Communist flag over their own nation!


http://conelrad.com/books/spine.php?id=354_0_1_0_C

Copies start at $39. Maybe He should republish it and sell it as a fundraiser for WackyBachy


ThingsComeUndone | Tuesday August 9, 2011 08:25 pm 17

Another high point in the Lee biography is a condemnation of the

radical abolitionists of the New England,

The Left I think needs to get Radical like they were actually. Maybe Michelle wants to enjoy herself as others live in slavery but unless she wants to live as a slave herself then she loses all moral ground.


mzchief | Tuesday August 9, 2011 08:25 pm 18
In response to Lisa Derrick @ 9

{ LMAO }


DrDick | Tuesday August 9, 2011 08:26 pm 19
In response to EvilDrPuma @ 15

Creed.


Lisa Derrick | Tuesday August 9, 2011 08:26 pm 20
In response to ThingsComeUndone @ 13

Again that was a quote form a book she recommended on her MN Senate campaign web page.


DrDick | Tuesday August 9, 2011 08:27 pm 21

rendering a generation of American youth useless through nerve-jamming, mental deterioration and retardation

That would rather explain the Teabaggers.


EvilDrPuma | Tuesday August 9, 2011 08:27 pm 22
In response to DrDick @ 12

It is at most evil, crazy, and stupid. QED.


EvilDrPuma | Tuesday August 9, 2011 08:31 pm 23
In response to DrDick @ 19

Maybe I’ll see if I can get through the whole night on allusions to John Belushi movies.

“Food fight!”


Lisa Derrick | Tuesday August 9, 2011 08:31 pm 24

Here’s the thing, lotsof people in America are decent kind people, they are just scared and worried. But acting as if they are dumb and stuff is gonna alienate them from the Democratic party, if members of the Democratic party act all snide about their love of junk TV or junk food or whatever. Part of the rhetoric of the right is that they have embraced the wide middle of America and told them it’s cool to be themselves.


ThingsComeUndone | Tuesday August 9, 2011 08:31 pm 25

Both kinds…Country and Western.

I like the old stuff Hank Williams, Tammy Wynette, Lynyrd Skynyrd the modern stuff seems as soulless and produced as Disney Pop star music. Its not only Country

The Communists, through their scientists, educators and entertainers, have contrived an elaborate, calculating and scientific technique directed at rendering a generation of American youth useless through nerve-jamming, mental deterioration and retardation. The plan involves conditioned reflexes, hypnotism and certain kinds of music. The results, destined to destroy our nation, are precise and exacting. Little wonder the Kremlin maintains it will not raise the Red flag over America—the Americans will raise it themselves. If the following scientific program destined to make our children mentally sick is not exposed, mentally degenerated Americans will indeed raise the Communist flag over their own nation!

http://conelrad.com/books/spine.php?id=354_0_1_0_C

Corporate America not the Commies has killed the radio industry and created a huge market for ipods in doing so.


EvilDrPuma | Tuesday August 9, 2011 08:34 pm 26
In response to ThingsComeUndone @ 25

Corporate America not the Commies has killed the radio industry and created a huge market for ipods in doing so.

Well, that makes them about as “Communist” as China has become.


Frank33 | Tuesday August 9, 2011 08:36 pm 27
In response to ThingsComeUndone @ 10

She likes Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers. Their rockin’ song “American Girl” must remind Michele of herself. It is a great song, but Tom Petty’s body of work does include those always popular songs about sex and drugs.

Why does Tom Petty get a “Pass” but the Beatles get bashed? Petty did not like Bachmann using his song.


ThingsComeUndone | Tuesday August 9, 2011 08:38 pm 28

Lisa its not just us Lefties who joke about 50, 100, 500 channels and there is nothing to watch on tv.
The GOP does try to be the Common Man yes but guys and gals in $300 suits who don’t cut their own lawns whining about gays when everyone wants jobs are out of touch with America no matter if they watch TV and like the Beatles.
The economy is not good we are not going to pick a President who reporters think would be fun to drink a beer with.
I know several felons who I’d rather drink with than Bush or Michelle who can talk politics much better than they can.


Lisa Derrick | Tuesday August 9, 2011 08:40 pm 29
In response to Frank33 @ 27

Well, maybe because no one ever called Tom Petty a force to bring Communism into America…


ThingsComeUndone | Tuesday August 9, 2011 08:41 pm 30

Petty did not like Bachmann

Cool Tom stood up to Michelle thats the important thing.


EvilDrPuma | Tuesday August 9, 2011 08:42 pm 31
In response to Frank33 @ 27

It is often the case that you can tell what music a right-wing candidate likes by which artists are suing him/her.


DrDick | Tuesday August 9, 2011 08:47 pm 32
In response to EvilDrPuma @ 31

Oddly, for people who fetishize property rights above all else, conservatives seem to have little understanding of and/or respect for intellectual property rights.


Lisa Derrick | Tuesday August 9, 2011 08:47 pm 33

Did anyone watch the Betty Boop cartoon?


ThingsComeUndone | Tuesday August 9, 2011 08:48 pm 34

How old is her web site when did her book list appear? I have no doubt Michelle supports the views in these books. I do doubt she reads them but she agrees with what was read to her.
However just what Presidential contender puts books like this on their website when they are running for President unless they want the racist vote and do not count on getting any African American, Hispanic ( we were slaves to the Spanish) heck any Dark people votes who have a memory of colonization are not going to like this.


Lisa Derrick | Tuesday August 9, 2011 08:49 pm 35
In response to ThingsComeUndone @ 34

As stated, TCU, the website, per the auhtor of the New Yorker article, was her Senate campaign website.


EvilDrPuma | Tuesday August 9, 2011 08:49 pm 36
In response to DrDick @ 32

It goes along with their general contempt for anything intellectual, I suspect.


ThingsComeUndone | Tuesday August 9, 2011 08:52 pm 37

We should ask the other GOPers what they think of the Michelle’s book list specifically the pro slavery one. Its a trap question avoid the question or answer they like it they look like bigots…because they are.
So they don’t like the books and lose the all important racist vote in the GOP primaries.
There is no right answer for a GOPer to give not if they want to win the general election.
The sad thing is Ron Paul, Newt, Sarah all would likely like the books not sure about Perry but Perry, Mitt etc can’t afford to lose the racist vote.


DrDick | Tuesday August 9, 2011 08:52 pm 38
In response to EvilDrPuma @ 36

That was my thought as well.


Lisa Derrick | Tuesday August 9, 2011 08:53 pm 39
In response to DrDick @ 32

If an event venue has a BMI/ASCAP license any artist can be played their and in theory a portion of the venue licensing fee goes to artists’ royalties, based on a complicated formula. So technically, any song a candidate wants to have played can be played

However, I do feel that if a candidate is playing a specific song at repeated rallies, the artist should be asked for permission, as it does give the impression that said artist endorses the candidate (which in the case of GOP is seldom the case with their first song choices!)


DrDick | Tuesday August 9, 2011 08:56 pm 40

Time for me to toddle off. Take care all.


EvilDrPuma | Tuesday August 9, 2011 08:56 pm 41

“Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor…?”
“The Germans…?”
“Forget it, he’s on a roll.”

OK, calling it a night. Peace out, y’all!


Lisa Derrick | Tuesday August 9, 2011 09:02 pm 42
In response to ThingsComeUndone @ 28

There are wealthy people, in nice suits, in both parties. The reality is that the middle, upper middle and lower economic strata are being squeezed, and for the Democrats to win they have to address the fears and concerns in a way that touches those who might otherwise vote GOP.


AitchD | Tuesday August 9, 2011 09:05 pm 43
In response to Lisa Derrick @ 9

wearing the face that she keeps in a jar by the door


Lisa Derrick | Tuesday August 9, 2011 09:06 pm 44
In response to AitchD @ 43

Pretty much, yup.


mzchief | Tuesday August 9, 2011 09:07 pm 45
In response to Lisa Derrick @ 33

Yes.


AitchD | Tuesday August 9, 2011 09:09 pm 46
In response to mzchief @ 45

surprisingly G-rated for BB


Lisa Derrick | Tuesday August 9, 2011 09:10 pm 47
In response to mzchief @ 45

I was stoked to find one that fit so perfectly–selling snake oil.


AitchD | Tuesday August 9, 2011 09:12 pm 48
In response to Lisa Derrick @ 44

Ah, I was hoping for a ‘Who is it for?’ and someone else would reply ‘All the lonely people’


mzchief | Tuesday August 9, 2011 09:12 pm 49
In response to AitchD @ 46

That’s what I understand.


Lisa Derrick | Tuesday August 9, 2011 09:15 pm 50
In response to AitchD @ 48

I was taking it metaphorically


mzchief | Tuesday August 9, 2011 09:18 pm 51
In response to Lisa Derrick @ 47

The theme was perfect and the product was rebottled city water as a matter of fact. The customers demonstrated the “placebo effect” in amusing and outlandish ways.


Lisa Derrick | Tuesday August 9, 2011 09:22 pm 52
In response to mzchief @ 51

if only fixing our country was that easy…


Lisa Derrick | Tuesday August 9, 2011 09:26 pm 53

I wish there was better UK riots coverage, can’t get any of length on any of the news channels. BBC starts at 2am, and uh…no way am I staying up that late.


mzchief | Tuesday August 9, 2011 09:29 pm 54
In response to Lisa Derrick @ 52

I’d be the first to snap my fingers or wiggle my nose if that did the trick. :-)


Lisa Derrick | Tuesday August 9, 2011 09:32 pm 55
In response to mzchief @ 54

OMG, “Bewitched” is coming back to teevee. CBS has picked up the pitch from the producers who made the (not great) movie version wiht Nicole Kidman.

i wonder if the success of Mad Men has resurrected the interest in Durwood’s profession.


mzchief | Tuesday August 9, 2011 09:36 pm 56
In response to Lisa Derrick @ 53

A follow-up on the UK with this just prior.


AitchD | Tuesday August 9, 2011 09:36 pm 57
In response to Lisa Derrick @ 55

Oo, maybe Monsanto will make the laff track?


solerso | Tuesday August 9, 2011 09:36 pm 58
In response to Frank33 @ 2

yes but Blue Cheer were “Louder than God”


mzchief | Tuesday August 9, 2011 09:44 pm 59
In response to Lisa Derrick @ 55

A bad remake would be a real turn off but then again Elizabeth Montgomery is pretty hard to top.


AitchD | Tuesday August 9, 2011 09:48 pm 60
In response to mzchief @ 59

a real turn off

It’s rare when that can be so literal


Lisa Derrick | Tuesday August 9, 2011 09:51 pm 61
In response to mzchief @ 56

Excleent!


mzchief | Tuesday August 9, 2011 09:52 pm 62
In response to Lisa Derrick @ 61

Anything in particular you are seeing?


Lisa Derrick | Tuesday August 9, 2011 09:55 pm 63
In response to mzchief @ 62

I watched the first video, and read the last blog entry.


Lisa Derrick | Tuesday August 9, 2011 09:57 pm 64

Night all! see you soon! thanks for the fun evening!


mzchief | Tuesday August 9, 2011 10:01 pm 65

Thank you and sweet dreams.


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