Late Night: Galliano – Unfashionable Anti-Semitism, But Rehab is Chic

Could designer John Galliano actually work again in this town, even after he was fired from his post as Dior’s creative director for making anti-Semitic remarks at a couple, assaulting the woman and declaring

I love Hitler

On video? In cafe? More than once? This was the third time, on Thursday before the Oscars, that Galliano has been accused of–or caught–making anti-Semitic remarks. The man and woman involved in Thursday incident filed a complaint with the police and Galliano was arrested; making anti-Semitic remarks is illegal in France and punishable by 6 months in jail.

Anything is possible…

The designer–who was slurring in the video and reportedly had a blood alcohol level well above the legal limit when arrested by police Friday morning for assault and anti-Semitism–seems to be taking the classic celebrity out: Friends say they’ve talked him into entering rehab.

And he’s suing the couple involved in Thursday’s incident for defamation. And has hired an attorney to fight his dismissal from Dior. Meanwhile, rumors are flying that Dior has found Galliano’s replacement: Riccardo Tisci of Givenchy.

The video from Galliano’s December anti-Jewish rant at the same cafe surfaced Monday, obtained by the British tabloid The Sun. The paper released it the morning Galliano was charged in Paris over the February 23 incident; while there he heard charges made by a woman regarding the event in October.

Natalie Portman, the face of the Dior perfume Miss Cherie, who wore a Rodarte maternity gown to the Oscars and was born in Israel, made her position clear today in a firmly worded statement:

I am deeply shocked and disgusted by the video of John Galliano’s comments that surfaced.

In light of this video, and as an individual who is proud to be Jewish, I will not be associated with Mr. Galliano in any way.

I hope at the very least, these terrible comments remind us to reflect and act upon combating these still-existing prejudices that are the opposite of all that is beautiful.

Needless to say, Galliano was booted within minutes. On Monday Dior had suspended the designer–named British designer of the year four times–for the charges of allegedly calling gallery owner Geraldine Bloch:

a dirty Jew face

pulling her hair, and saying she should be killed. He also insulted her looks, clothing and virtue:

You’re so ugly I can’t bear looking at you. You’re wearing cheap boots, cheap thigh boots. You’ve got no hair, your eyebrows are ugly, you’re ugly, you’re nothing but a whore.

and allegedly made racist remarks about her boyfriend who is of Asian origin adding

I’ll kill you.

Will rehab be enough to get stars wearing his clothes again? (Actually, Nicole Kidman wore a Galliano dress at the Oscars, but to be charitable, maybe she hadn’t heard the news yet). Dior will not cancel their show March 4 during Paris Fashion Week, though there is no word if Galliano will make his classic end of show appearance in which he declares:

I am designer John Galliano!

the same phrase Bloch and her boyfriend Philippe Virgitti claim he pronounced after he insulted and assaulted them.

It would be more dramatic if he were absent, having gone into a program to treat whatever is going on.

Lots of stars go into rehab and come out with the public’s best wishes for a comeback.

Mel Gibson entered rehab in 2006 after his DUI followed by anti-Jewish remarks tossed out to the arresting officer. Last year the Hollywood Foreign Press Association had Mel introduce Inglorius Basterds at the Golden Globe after Ricky Gervais heartily mocked him, which to me was a direct “fuck you” to the actor–or his own attempt at a mea culpa/”love me again” moment. I am torn about which.

Meanwhile, the British satirical mag Private Eye has published an interview with Julian Assange in which editor-in-chief Ian Hilsop claims the WikiLeaks head/international superstar Assange allegedly makes anti-Semitic remarks. Only Hilsop states his has no notes to back it up. And Assange refutes the comments.

Oh, and Charlie Sheen–the new face of crazy who could teach John Galliano a few things about rehab (and maybe the designer could help Sheen resurrect his loungewear designs he was developing over a decade ago during one of his stints, I think it was while in Promises Malibu)–says in his ABC interview he is not an anti-Semite for calling Two and Half Men creator Chuck Lorre by his Hebrew name Chaim and real last name of Levine. Sheen wondered that if someone calls him by his given name, Carlos Estevez, are they being

anti-Latino

Sheen, unlike Galliano and Gibson, was—according to him–sober at the time of his remarks.

It remains to be seen if the excuse of drunkenness and the redemption of rehab are enough to save Galliano’s career. But Patrica Field–best known as the stylist for Sex and the City–is already sticking up for tipsy tailor, telling Women’s Wear Daily:

People in fashion all they do is go and see John Galliano theater every season. That’s what he gives them. To me, this was the same except it wasn’t in a theater or in a movie. John lives in theater. It’s theater. It’s farce. But people in fashion don’t recognize the farce in it. All of a sudden they don’t know him. But it’s OK when it’s Mel Brooks’ ‘The Producers’ singing Springtime for Hitler.

Earlier Field had posted a pro-Galliano message on her blog.

Meanwhile, Sheen ought pay the severance to the crew of Two and Half Men out of his own bank account and STFU.

100 Responses to "Late Night: Galliano – Unfashionable Anti-Semitism, But Rehab is Chic"
Suzanne | Tuesday March 1, 2011 08:03 pm 1

lisa!


Margaret | Tuesday March 1, 2011 08:04 pm 2

Lisa!

Wow! I almost linked to this video on the prior thread but decided against it in the end.


Lisa Derrick | Tuesday March 1, 2011 08:05 pm 3
In response to Margaret @ 2

Well, somehad to do it, and LN is really the safety zone


DrDick | Tuesday March 1, 2011 08:05 pm 4

Rehab is for celebrities what confession is for Catholics. It wipes away all sins. Of course banksters need never even do any kind of penance for their sins.


mattcarmody | Tuesday March 1, 2011 08:07 pm 5

How does Natalie feel about the genocide being committed against the Palestinian people? She gonna have nothing to do with fundraising for the state of israel? She gonna boycott Israeli products?


Margaret | Tuesday March 1, 2011 08:08 pm 6
In response to Lisa Derrick @ 3

Hey, better you than me. The only reason I decided against it was because I couldn’t connect it to the other thread in a satisfactory manner. I have standards ya know. :)


Lisa Derrick | Tuesday March 1, 2011 08:08 pm 7

It occured ot me–maybe if the tipsy tailor’s last name wasn’t that of a liqueur, he might not be such a drunken [adjective noun] ; then I realized alcohol lowers inhibitions.

Perhpas for him “Jew” is insult like how some people use other term here in US, and granted the woman he ASSAULTED and insulted and anti-Semited was not Jewish, however that doesn’t make it any better.


Margaret | Tuesday March 1, 2011 08:11 pm 8
In response to Lisa Derrick @ 7

Sounds like he was channeling Mel Gibson. To the best of my knowledge, the cops that arrested him for being a drunken, belligerent douche weren’t Jewish either.


PeasantParty | Tuesday March 1, 2011 08:11 pm 9

I think the man needs more than rehab. He probably needs to be on meds of the psychotic variety.

Anyhoo. I’m out for the night.


Margaret | Tuesday March 1, 2011 08:12 pm 10
In response to PeasantParty @ 9

Night PParty.


DrDick | Tuesday March 1, 2011 08:12 pm 11

In our brave new world, as in the ancien regime, our “nobility” can do no wrong and enough money washes away all stains.


Twain | Tuesday March 1, 2011 08:12 pm 12

All these people making idiots of themselves and then going into rehab are really getting tiresome. Is there a rehab place for being anti-Semitic?


DrDick | Tuesday March 1, 2011 08:13 pm 13
In response to PeasantParty @ 9

Niters.


Suzanne | Tuesday March 1, 2011 08:13 pm 14
In response to PeasantParty @ 9

g’nite pparty


DrDick | Tuesday March 1, 2011 08:14 pm 15
In response to Twain @ 12

It is times like this that those Maoist re-education camps begin to look attractive.


Twain | Tuesday March 1, 2011 08:15 pm 16
In response to DrDick @ 15

Good thought. LOL


Margaret | Tuesday March 1, 2011 08:17 pm 17
In response to Twain @ 12

Rehab doesn’t work anyway and it’s just a do over for rich people. The only thing that will make someone change their ways is for them to arrive at that conclusion themselves. Intervention may make an addict/bigot’s friends and family feel like they are doing something but it’s ultimately a waste of time, money and effort and inevitably leads to greater pain and loss later.


KrisAinCA | Tuesday March 1, 2011 08:18 pm 18
In response to DrDick @ 4

I think for bankers, the equivalent is buying a yacht.


Suzanne | Tuesday March 1, 2011 08:21 pm 19
In response to Margaret @ 17

nothing can be changed until they admit there is a problem and that problem is their behavior.


Margaret | Tuesday March 1, 2011 08:24 pm 20
In response to Suzanne @ 19

Agreed but admitting it to someone else under duress is meaningless. They have to come to that conclusion themselves and they have to believe it. Don’t get me wrong, other people can point the way but the addict/bigot has to walk through the door willingly and with commitment. Beating addiction is easy but it can only be done under those circumstances.


Funnydiva2002 | Tuesday March 1, 2011 08:25 pm 21

So this Patricia Field baggage really thinks a song from a musical-within-a-musical–in a film or onstage–is the same as being verbally assaulted in a restaurant by a random drunk douche-nozzle?
Really?
Galli-whatsis’ victims didn’t have the option of NOT buying a ticket to the Theatre of/in [His] Mind, as she calls it.
Fuck. That. Bullshit.


AZ Matt | Tuesday March 1, 2011 08:26 pm 22
In response to Suzanne @ 19

That is especially true for all the dog whistlers of the teapotties party.


Funnydiva2002 | Tuesday March 1, 2011 08:26 pm 23

PS:
Yeah, yeah, I’m rummaging through the couch-cushions for fitty-cent for the swear jar…


Lisa Derrick | Tuesday March 1, 2011 08:27 pm 24
In response to Suzanne @ 19

Egomania. But the booze/drugs don’t help.


Suzanne | Tuesday March 1, 2011 08:27 pm 25
In response to Margaret @ 20

absolutely. without believing that there is a problem and believing that the problem is their behavior, nothing will change. until then, they will revert to their old behaviors no matter how many times an intervention is done.


tongorad | Tuesday March 1, 2011 08:27 pm 26

Sucks that you can be arrested for mere words, even though those words may be despicable. Fuck you, France.


Margaret | Tuesday March 1, 2011 08:28 pm 27
In response to AZ Matt @ 22

Yep. As long as they are deluding themselves, nothing else matters. Reality has no meaning. Consequences have no power. Logic is like pretty flower…that smells bad.


AZ Matt | Tuesday March 1, 2011 08:31 pm 28
In response to tongorad @ 26

Perhaps it is because France was occupied by Nazis their tolerance is less for this kind of talk.


Margaret | Tuesday March 1, 2011 08:34 pm 29

I have no sheepskin saying I’m any kind of expert on addiction but this is one of the very few topics on which I can speak with sure authority. If I was to open a rehab clinic, I could boast a 100 percent success rate because I wouldn’t take people who are there because their family is disgusted with them or because their job is threatening to fire them or a judge is threatening to incarcerate them. I would only take those who are disgusted with themselves.


Lisa Derrick | Tuesday March 1, 2011 08:35 pm 30
In response to tongorad @ 26

France has some stuff I disagree with. I think if you want to wear a “burquini”–a swimsuit that covers your body like a wetsuit, you should be allowed to. Gods know I don’t like getting sun on my body!


Lisa Derrick | Tuesday March 1, 2011 08:36 pm 31
In response to Funnydiva2002 @ 21

Ms Bloch also claims she was physically assaulted.


tongorad | Tuesday March 1, 2011 08:38 pm 32
In response to AZ Matt @ 28

Outlawing free speech seems like an odd consequence to the Nazi occupation.


Suzanne | Tuesday March 1, 2011 08:41 pm 33

just because one has the right to yell fire in a theater does not mean there are no consequences when one does so.


AZ Matt | Tuesday March 1, 2011 08:43 pm 34
In response to tongorad @ 32

We didn’t have any towns or villages wiped out here by Nazis. I guess they are really touchy about that kind of thing.


Margaret | Tuesday March 1, 2011 08:45 pm 35

I was a major addict at one point in my life. Without going into the details, it was a familiar story. I felt hard done by the world and plenty hopeless and got into first meth and then crack cocaine. After a few years of that, one day in 1994 I thought to myself, “Do I really want to live like this?” When I answered, “No”, I quit the dope. Then and there. Yeah I had cravings, (heck I still do but they are rare and last seconds where at first they were constant), but I had made my own choice without anybody pressuring me from the outside and I succeeded without any drama and without any real problems.
A couple of years later, I ran across a woman who I used to use with. She had been a nurse instructor at one point, very successful and respected. She had just done six months in the joint and had gone right back to using the moment she got out. She begged me, pleaded with me to tell her how to get off the dope and I just said to her “Lana”, (not her real name), “There is nothing impossible about it. It isn’t an exercise of will. It’s just arriving at the decision of whether you want to live like you’re living. As long as you keep justifying what you’re doing to yourself in your mind, you aren’t going to be able to quit. Period. It’s that simple”. I’ve never seen her again, nor do I know where her journey took her. Changing your behavior isn’t a matter of will or conscience, it’s a matter of deciding what kind of person you want to be and then acting on that decision.


papau | Tuesday March 1, 2011 08:46 pm 36

“Unfashionable”

so that is the only word to describe the scene? Don’t think so – besides that word itself sounds like contempt for Jews is otherwise OK or will be once it comes back “into fashion”

Meanwhile Charley S has ended his career – I thought he was acting in 2 and 1/2 – seems he was just being himself – and that I don’t find as amusing as someone pretending to be an ass.


Lisa Derrick | Tuesday March 1, 2011 08:50 pm 37

I do think there are consequences to a high-paced fame and adulation filled life, and the stress to produce, having stupid money…we’d all like to think we wouldnt have Britney Spears/Courtney Love/John Galliano moments…but who knows. Life is not a reproduceable experiment.


Funnydiva2002 | Tuesday March 1, 2011 08:52 pm 38
In response to Lisa Derrick @ 31

Yes, I see that now. I didn’t read it carefully enough before.
In which case, the jerk is a common criminal, and it’s no longer really a “free speech” issue, is it?
Yeah, and some types of threats are “just words” and will, rightly, land you in jail.
The guy’s clearly an asswipe, and his apologists are not a whole lot better, IMO. His connections and “artistic temperament” don’t mitigate his behavior at all, in my book. Especially since this is not the first time.
My god, can you imagine the reaction if some dusky-complected immigrant from the mideast did something similar to a couple of white tourists? Quelle Horreur!


Lisa Derrick | Tuesday March 1, 2011 08:56 pm 39
In response to Margaret @ 35

Others do better with 12 step, or Jesus or any other number of ways. In the end though, it come down to what you expressed–will power and strength. (and congratualtions).
And therefore I think Charlie Sheen might actually be not on drugs..but he def has something going on in his neurochemistry.


KrisAinCA | Tuesday March 1, 2011 09:00 pm 40
In response to Lisa Derrick @ 39

It’s been clinically proven, time and again, that willpower has nothing to do with true addicts or alcoholics ceasing their substance abuse. This is akin, in my mind at least, to saying gay people have a choice as to their sexuality.


Kelly Canfield | Tuesday March 1, 2011 09:02 pm 41
In response to KrisAinCA @ 40

Horsehit. People can get clean from substance abuse; no choice as to sexual orientation. Don’t go down that road.


Margaret | Tuesday March 1, 2011 09:03 pm 42
In response to Lisa Derrick @ 39

M’eh, doesn’t have to be drugs. Any self destructive behavior is just a symptom of the same phenomenon.


nahant | Tuesday March 1, 2011 09:03 pm 43

In a recent FDA study, the United States government doctors who were conducting studies on test drugs administered weekly doses of VIAGRA to an equal number of doctors and lawyers.

While the majority of the doctors achieved enhanced sexual prowess, the lawyers simply grew taller.

The US government researchers are at a loss to explain.

Hmmmm


Margaret | Tuesday March 1, 2011 09:05 pm 44
In response to Lisa Derrick @ 39

Sorry I was unclear. I said that kicking addiction is not an exercise of will. It’s nothing more complicated than making a decision to stop. If the decision is sincere and meant, you will be successful. If it’s a half assed, “I guess I should quit….”, then no amount of will is going to do it.


Margaret | Tuesday March 1, 2011 09:06 pm 45
In response to KrisAinCA @ 40

This is akin, in my mind at least, to saying gay people have a choice as to their sexuality.

Totally not analogous. Totally not.


Lisa Derrick | Tuesday March 1, 2011 09:07 pm 46
In response to KrisAinCA @ 40

One the physical addiction has been dealt with..? With addiction I often see how anecdotal evidence overrides the clinical. Peopel who have shot heroin, odne coke for a decade-plus get clean and stay clean for 4x as long as they were using. Do they have cravings? Yeah. do they give into them–no. And they have told me it’s because they have such amazing lives, they are afraid to throw it away for drugs. Granted they went through rehab and/or 12step, and may have been been medically supervised while coming off their substances, but they havent used since. Weird huh? Kinda like coming out of a coma, or recovering form a brain injury.

Other people can use drugs and alcohol for ages responsibly, hold jobs, have relationships, etc. without their lives crashing and burning.


Margaret | Tuesday March 1, 2011 09:08 pm 47
In response to nahant @ 43

LMAO! I’ll bet their asses got bigger too.


KrisAinCA | Tuesday March 1, 2011 09:09 pm 48
In response to Kelly Canfield @ 41

Your response misinterprets my original comment. Maybe I wasn’t clear.

While there is a problem with drug and alcohol abuse, peoples’ sexual orientation is certainly not a problem. I was just likening the two in whether or not there is a choice in the matter.

Just because somebody is able to stop using and drinking doesn’t mean they’re cured, or better. They’re still an addict or alcoholic. As for personal will power, I’ve never met an actual alcoholic or addict that recovered of their own free will. In fact, the ability to stop of their own free will, means that they aren’t an addict or alcoholic. Just a “problem user”.


Margaret | Tuesday March 1, 2011 09:11 pm 49
In response to Lisa Derrick @ 46

And they have told me it’s because they have such amazing lives, they are afraid to throw it away for drugs.

Well, I don’t have an “amazing life” or anything to throw away. I don’t give into the cravings because I’ve decided not to. My mind is in charge, not cravings from my R complex.


KrisAinCA | Tuesday March 1, 2011 09:11 pm 50

@Margaret @45 – you’re right. I was in error there.

@Lisa @46 – I’ve been clean and sober for 9+ years. I wouldn’t trade it for anything.


Kelly Canfield | Tuesday March 1, 2011 09:11 pm 51
In response to KrisAinCA @ 48

There’s no comparison between being gay and substance abusers. At all. Period.

All I’m saying.


Margaret | Tuesday March 1, 2011 09:13 pm 52
In response to KrisAinCA @ 48

As for personal will power, I’ve never met an actual alcoholic or addict that recovered of their own free will

When you get to Austin and we meet face to face you will have. I’m not interested in a lot of twelve step, rehab bullshit. I’ve beaten my addictions and I’ve beaten them on my own and I have very little tolerance for people who call me a liar. Again, this is something I can discuss with some authority.


Suzanne | Tuesday March 1, 2011 09:14 pm 53

kris, was your point that there are some people — mainly republicans and fundies — who do think that, like addiction, people can ‘ungay’ themselves through will power and self control?


nahant | Tuesday March 1, 2011 09:15 pm 54
In response to Margaret @ 47

Didn’t think of that Angle!!


KrisAinCA | Tuesday March 1, 2011 09:15 pm 55
In response to Kelly Canfield @ 51

You’re right. I’m not talking about substance abusers. I’m talking about alcoholics and addicts. And the only point I’m trying to make here is that it’s not a lifestyle choice. It’s something that you are or you aren’t.


KrisAinCA | Tuesday March 1, 2011 09:16 pm 56

@Suz, yes. That’s a much better way of putting it.


KrisAinCA | Tuesday March 1, 2011 09:17 pm 57

@Margaret @52 – I’m not calling you a liar.

The definition of an addict or an alcoholic, at least in my understanding, is someone with the inability to stop on their own.


Suzanne | Tuesday March 1, 2011 09:19 pm 58
In response to KrisAinCA @ 56

and we know that it totally bullshit — sexuality is not a choice. some folks, like pastor ‘meth’ haggard, have yet to learn that truth


Margaret | Tuesday March 1, 2011 09:19 pm 59
In response to KrisAinCA @ 57

@Margaret @52 – I’m not calling you a liar.

Sorry. That wasn’t meant to imply that you are. But I have no patience for people who feel qualified to talk about my circumstances without having ever experienced what I have. It’s like a blind person telling me that I’m calling red blue.


Kelly Canfield | Tuesday March 1, 2011 09:21 pm 60

Being gay is not a condition one necessarily wishes to stop, and can’t.

Being an addict is a condition one might really want to, and can.

It’s really offensive to me for the two conditions to be compared as equal.


KrisAinCA | Tuesday March 1, 2011 09:21 pm 61
In response to Suzanne @ 58

Nor does it need to be a choice, in the case of sexuality. I think that’s where I’m missing with my comments tonight.

Being LGBT = cool

Addict/Alcoholic = not so much


KrisAinCA | Tuesday March 1, 2011 09:23 pm 62
In response to Kelly Canfield @ 60

See my comment above this one. I tried to clarify this. I was just trying to draw a parallel that it’s not a choice one makes.


Lisa Derrick | Tuesday March 1, 2011 09:23 pm 63
In response to KrisAinCA @ 48

There are those that that that would argue that willpower at the core..the willingness to surrender


Suzanne | Tuesday March 1, 2011 09:25 pm 64
In response to Kelly Canfield @ 60

absolutely. that is why it must be corrected when someone makes that comparison.

tis like telling someone they can stop breathing if they only tried hard enough


Kelly Canfield | Tuesday March 1, 2011 09:26 pm 65
In response to KrisAinCA @ 62

Then have a beer. You don’t have a choice.


KrisAinCA | Tuesday March 1, 2011 09:27 pm 66
In response to Kelly Canfield @ 65

I’m having one right now, thanks :)

An O’Doul’s.


Margaret | Tuesday March 1, 2011 09:29 pm 67
In response to KrisAinCA @ 61

But comparing being the condition of being LGBT to the condition of being addicted is like comparing being Caucasian to being in the KKK. One doesn’t have the choice of whether to be Caucasian or not but one does have the choice of being or not being a douche.


Suzanne | Tuesday March 1, 2011 09:30 pm 68
In response to Margaret @ 67

excellent analogy margaret


Margaret | Tuesday March 1, 2011 09:32 pm 69
In response to Suzanne @ 68

Thanks. Wish I’d proofread a little better though. Could have been said better. Oh well. I’m sleepy and have an early day. Oya pups!


Kelly Canfield | Tuesday March 1, 2011 09:33 pm 70
In response to Margaret @ 67

That’s it.


KrisAinCA | Tuesday March 1, 2011 09:34 pm 71

Apparently we’re not going to get away to the comparison I made upthread.

I admire all of you folks here, and we agree on most everything. Obviously I’ve stepped in it here and I don’t want to hurt any of the relationships I’ve made here. So I’ll see you folks tomorrow.

Nite all!


Suzanne | Tuesday March 1, 2011 09:34 pm 72

g’nite margaret and kris


Kelly Canfield | Tuesday March 1, 2011 09:38 pm 73

Constantly amazes me that people think I made a choice to be the lowest part of society, and its usually compared with addiction.

I can’t stand that, as it’s the usual reason to have my rights revoked. That’s totally fucked thinking as far as I’m concerned.


Suzanne | Tuesday March 1, 2011 09:42 pm 74
In response to Kelly Canfield @ 73

(((kelly)))


openhope | Tuesday March 1, 2011 09:44 pm 75
In response to Kelly Canfield @ 73

It hurts my heart that such fine people as you have to describe themselves as the lowest part of society.
Babe, you’re the cream of the crop! I used to think we could change that, I used to think that women could change their low ranking. But I was young and full of joy.


Teddy Partridge | Tuesday March 1, 2011 09:44 pm 76

That Jeff Rossen interviewer of Charlie Sheen, cute though he may be, is NO expert on who’s high. Looking at Charlie Sheen’s skin, expressions, speech patterns, eyes, and hands — it’s no contest. None at all. The young man (who Lawrence O’Donnell said, insulting NBC’s Richard Engle as well as ABC’s Christiance Amanpour and CNN’s Anderson Cooper “You have the journalistic coup of the year, Jeff!”) admitted he’s no expert, and I must agree.

He has no passing acquaintance — NONE — with the signifiers of substance use.


Kelly Canfield | Tuesday March 1, 2011 09:44 pm 77
In response to Suzanne @ 74

Thank Suz, and *hugzback*


transparait | Tuesday March 1, 2011 09:44 pm 78

Well, sooner or later he’ll quit, or die of it. The drinking I mean.


Kelly Canfield | Tuesday March 1, 2011 09:47 pm 79
In response to openhope @ 75

IMO, women and gay rights are inextricably tied together. That’s why I’m a big wimminzlibber.

If she ain’t got it, I ain’t got it. Zat simple.


transparait | Tuesday March 1, 2011 09:48 pm 80

You’re definitely not *the lowest part of society*, Kelly.


openhope | Tuesday March 1, 2011 09:49 pm 81
In response to transparait @ 78

Maybe the narcotics. Not necessarily the drink. My grandfather was a stone drunk who died at 91. That’s a lot of years to do a lot of damage to your loved ones.


Teddy Partridge | Tuesday March 1, 2011 09:54 pm 82

Charlie’s dead inside already. The mother of those children has got a temp restraining order today, and changes to visitation won’t be far behind after the interview when he said the “goddesses” help take care of them when they are at his house. I mean, these “goddesses” are the young ladies who said, on camera, “I told Charlie anything goes, I’m just along for the ride, it’s all great and good with me.”

Takers.


Teddy Partridge | Tuesday March 1, 2011 09:55 pm 83

I’d just like to point out that O’Douls is beer.

It’s like taking just the tip and still saying you’re not a bottom.


transparait | Tuesday March 1, 2011 09:55 pm 84

Wow. I’m surprised his system could function after so much poison for so long, it’s pretty rare. I’m sorry about your family’s misfortune.


LoudounLib | Tuesday March 1, 2011 09:56 pm 85
In response to Teddy Partridge @ 82

I’m surprised that the local child protective services isn’t on the case as well. Not a good atmosphere for those kids.


Kelly Canfield | Tuesday March 1, 2011 09:57 pm 86
In response to Teddy Partridge @ 83

*snap!*


openhope | Tuesday March 1, 2011 09:57 pm 87
In response to Teddy Partridge @ 82

His Goddesses are probably young women with a history of abuse. He does have a record of abuse when high. It’s a sad state of affairs. But that’s life.


transparait | Tuesday March 1, 2011 09:58 pm 88
In response to Teddy Partridge @ 83

Lol.

Nice, uh, analogy, Teddy.

Lmao.


newtonusr | Tuesday March 1, 2011 10:02 pm 89
In response to Kelly Canfield @ 73

Kelly – and I have no right to say this – but I’m saying it anyway…
Shit, how DO I say this – Addiction, like status is involuntary, and that is if you believe in the neuro-chemical theories of addiction….

It is desirable to resolve one – addiction – and not so much in the other case.

But the case of tongue-tiedness that results when people who are neither addicted or LGBT try to opine in this area – is gigantic.

Imperfections in language abound. Kris went face-down in the asphalt, but I think it was an honest linguistic pitfall.


Lisa Derrick | Tuesday March 1, 2011 10:03 pm 90
In response to Kelly Canfield @ 73

Kelly, you rock, and I hate that somehow , someway some parts society doesn;t love the peopel for how they are and for what makes them them.


Lisa Derrick | Tuesday March 1, 2011 10:03 pm 91

Night all, time ot watch Sheen implode….


openhope | Tuesday March 1, 2011 10:06 pm 92

Transparait, If you’re replying to me…thank you for your response. I never met my grandfather, My parents moved from Wis. to Colorado when I was young. And my father [his son] had cut all ties. My poor dad.
I’ve been so curious about that longevity gene in our DNA. All my parents relations either died young of tuberculosis or lived way past the point of living. My maternal grandmother was 102. My mother is a tuberculosis survivor [one lung removed] and 87. Go figure!


transparait | Tuesday March 1, 2011 10:14 pm 93
In response to openhope @ 92

I was. It’s for the best I’m sure that you never knew him, people who are addicts that long are on their own planet. Good for you and your Dad for avoiding such a fate.

: )


Kelly Canfield | Tuesday March 1, 2011 10:15 pm 94
In response to newtonusr @ 89

Imperfections in language abound. Kris went face-down in the asphalt, but I think it was an honest linguistic pitfall.

I’ll buy that.


Kelly Canfield | Tuesday March 1, 2011 10:16 pm 95
In response to Suzanne @ 74

Thank you, Figa.


openhope | Tuesday March 1, 2011 10:24 pm 96

Thank you for saying that. I was thinking along those lines but thought I’d come in to late.
I just watched a beautiful little movie “Lemon Trees” about a Palestinian woman living on the Israel/Palestine border and the daily degradation in her life.
I wanted to shout, “Fuck Israel, it’s not always about the Jews”, but…………………


openhope | Tuesday March 1, 2011 10:44 pm 97
In response to openhope @ 96

I have many dear memories of time spent in my developing years with life embracing family friends who taught us about the Jewish faith. But that was back in the days of the kibbutz movement and I was young enough to think that they were settling land no one lived on.
Oh, to be that innocent and naive again. Now I know it was before Zionism.
In an America was before fascism.


openhope | Tuesday March 1, 2011 10:47 pm 98
In response to LoudounLib @ 85

May doG save the children from Child Protection Services.


t0dd | Wednesday March 2, 2011 12:49 am 99
In response to Suzanne @ 33

It’s always rather amusing and quaint when someone cites this fatuous example as a reason for limiting free-speech. Did you know Justice Oliver Holmes used this as a reason to send to prison a group of Yiddish-speaking socialists? Who were against U.S. participation in the First World War?

Just because we might find certain speech disagreeable is every reason to absolutely defend it because outlawing any speech at all is a slippery slope.


szielinski | Wednesday March 2, 2011 04:42 am 100

The only punishment adequate to the crime and the criminal: He’s forced to watch Zoolander for 400 hours.


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