Late Night: Bill Sells Himself as Hot Date for Hillary’s Debt Relief


Gosh, Bill Clinton is such a good husband! Once is not enough for the Big Dog as yet again he puts the FUN in fundraiser–selling himself to help offset his wife’s campaign debts. Here’s what Mr. Clinton said in his nice emailed note that I got this morning:

How would you like the chance to come up to New York and spend a day with me?
Hillary’s campaign still has a few vestiges of debt that I know she would like to see paid in full. Will you reach out today to help Hillary this one last time? If you enter between now and May 18th, you might join me for a day in New York.

For a donation, or merely by filling out a form, you could win an exciting afternoon in New York with the sexy ex-Prezzy.  Oooh, just think of the fun you could have…What’s your dream date (vertical only!) with Bill?

Me? I’d like to catch Mark Ryden’s show at Paul Kasmin Gallery followed by oysters and some discreet murmuring at the Whispering Gallery in Grand Central Station’s Oyster Bar,  then his’n'hers  mani-pedis–a great way to talk about politics and the state of affairs (his, mine and the world’s)  as we’re buffed and polished, and oh, more shop talk as we window shop and talk once our nails are dry. By then I’d need some afternoon dim sum at Jing Fong and a really cool dessert like durian or black sesame seed ice cream from Chinatown Ice Cream Factory, or yum! chocolate pudding at ChikaLicious.

And in other news, last week, the Florida State Legislature did not pass a bill which would have made bestiality illegal. While only five states and the District of Columbia allow same sex marriages, bestiality is legal in 17 states.

In the last few years, three states–Arkansas, Montana and North Carolina – repealed laws banning zoophilia, citing the laws as “unconstitutional.” WTF?

(photo: Jon Stammers)

220 Responses to "Late Night: Bill Sells Himself as Hot Date for Hillary’s Debt Relief"
Lisa Derrick | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:01 pm 1

What should I wear on my date with Bill if I win?


newtonusr | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:04 pm 2

Kneepads.


Lisa Derrick | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:05 pm 3
In response to newtonusr @ 2

Mmmm, he should be so lucky. But I don’t think his heart could handle it. I might break it….


EvilDrPuma | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:05 pm 4
In response to Lisa Derrick @ 1

A goat costume?


Lisa Derrick | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:06 pm 5
In response to EvilDrPuma @ 4

Baaahhh!


Margaret | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:06 pm 6

I want a date with Bill Clinton as much as I want to spend an evening with Alan Greenspan. As far as paying for it….. ROTFLMAO!


ratfood | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:06 pm 7
In response to Lisa Derrick @ 1

Wanna borrow my blue dress? Needs dry cleaning.


Lisa Derrick | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:07 pm 8

Okay how is it unconstitutional to BAN sex with animals? Under what section? Right to privacy?


yellowsnapdragon | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:07 pm 9
In response to newtonusr @ 2

I was gonna say…not a blue dress.


DrDick | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:07 pm 10

Lisa! Welcome back, we missed you lately.

Insert standard corporate whore joke abut Clinton here.


DrDick | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:08 pm 11
In response to Lisa Derrick @ 1

Teflon.


yellowsnapdragon | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:08 pm 12
In response to ratfood @ 7

Heh heh. Great minds.


Lisa Derrick | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:08 pm 13
In response to Margaret @ 6

Oh you can enter the sweepstakes without actually donating. I think I gave five bucks last time. I wonder how many times you can enter…


Kelly Canfield | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:09 pm 14
In response to Lisa Derrick @ 8

Right to primacy hunny!


Margaret | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:09 pm 15

Hmmm….Now that I think of it, I don’t own a blue dress. I think if I was going out with Bill, blue jeans might be more appropriate. I don’t think many people wear dresses to the tractor pulls….


newtonusr | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:10 pm 16
In response to yellowsnapdragon @ 9

I should have said “The more unflattering, the better.”
But judging from history, even that might not work.


DrDick | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:10 pm 17
In response to Lisa Derrick @ 8

We are big believers in freedom of expression here in Montana.


Margaret | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:11 pm 18
In response to Lisa Derrick @ 13

Cool! But then there’s the whole, “I’d just as soon go out with Greenspan” thing. Any chance of BILL paying ME? ;-)


Kelly Canfield | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:11 pm 19

I have a very charming leopard print dress, and an ASTOUNDING Liza Minelli wig, so if you all want to enter my name on your form or donation, I assure you, I will make the day “interesting.”


librty | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:11 pm 20

Yankees Game (come on guys – he’s an ex-pres)


Lisa Derrick | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:11 pm 21
In response to DrDick @ 10

Thanks, missed you all too. California’s budget crisis needs pot legalized–as do other states’–and we needed a slogan to get it going.


demi | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:12 pm 22

Ah, jeez. I think I’d rather stay home and have a bowl of cereal.
He does luvs the girls, but, fortunately, I’m over that.
Hi dogs.


yellowsnapdragon | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:12 pm 23
In response to Kelly Canfield @ 19

LOL


ratfood | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:13 pm 24
In response to yellowsnapdragon @ 12

Since then WH interns are required to have their apparel Scotchgarded.


Lisa Derrick | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:13 pm 25
In response to Kelly Canfield @ 19

pics please! You should go for it! But I wonder if the winner signs a non-disclosure agreement. “My lips are sealed” BOuwahahah


EvilDrPuma | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:14 pm 26
In response to librty @ 20

Best conservative to sit in the Oval Office until Obama came along.


CTuttle | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:14 pm 27

…(vertical only!) with Bill?

Careful…! Bill was almost impeached for being vertical…! ;-)


ratfood | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:15 pm 28
In response to Kelly Canfield @ 19

Life is a Cabaret, old chum!


yellowsnapdragon | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:15 pm 29
In response to ratfood @ 24

’cause that’s just good hygiene for anyone who may come in contact with Bill Clinton.


Margaret | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:16 pm 30
In response to Kelly Canfield @ 19

Heck flat, why don’t you enter? I’m sure Bill would be stunned to see you in that ensemble.


Lisa Derrick | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:16 pm 31

I like Bill actually. If I won I’d take my stepmom. She’d be THRILLED!


Kelly Canfield | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:18 pm 32
In response to Margaret @ 30

I’m looking for those Rocky Horror pictures that Jump to the Left and I traded back and forth over at the UnrulyMob….


Margaret | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:18 pm 33
In response to Lisa Derrick @ 31

Oh, I’m sure he’s a charming old lecher. I just don’t have any interest in hobnobbing with politicians. Or rats.


Teddy Partridge | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:19 pm 34

Oh, Lisa, your Late Night posts always make me laugh so hard!

Bill and goats — who’da thunk it?


Jo Fish | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:19 pm 35

Let’s see, giving Bill money to help with Hillary…hmmmm… didn’t the two of them make enough money selling books, generating speaking fees etc to cover their own debts? I mean if he can take it to the internets to raise money for Hillary’s debts, can’t we all? Maybe he could help (teach me how to) me pay my Mastercard bill over the intertoobz…


Margaret | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:19 pm 36
In response to Kelly Canfield @ 32

LMAO! I hope you find them. I miss Jump….


yellowsnapdragon | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:20 pm 37

If I won, I’d take Ken Starr. That would make it lively.


newtonusr | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:20 pm 38
In response to Jo Fish @ 35

She should just get a refund from Mark Penn. That would cover her debt and then some.


demi | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:21 pm 39
In response to Margaret @ 33

There’s only one Rat I like to hob nob with.


DrDick | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:21 pm 40
In response to Kelly Canfield @ 32

I think you would be absolutely stunning in that bustier and fishnets outfit.


ratfood | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:22 pm 41
In response to yellowsnapdragon @ 37

or Linda Tripp


Margot | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:22 pm 42
In response to Lisa Derrick @ 31

I like him too. If I won I’d be accompanied by my 2 sons who benefited by me getting FMLA (a Clinton-era law).


ratfood | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:23 pm 43
In response to demi @ 39

Thanks, hon. Margaret’s comment bruised my feelings but all better now. :)


yellowsnapdragon | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:23 pm 44
In response to ratfood @ 41

Not her. I can’t stand hearing the sound of my own voice recorded.


demi | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:24 pm 45
In response to ratfood @ 43

Kissing the boo boo.
And, yeah, Margot, wasn’t the Family Act one of the, if not the first things he signed?


Lisa Derrick | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:24 pm 46
In response to Teddy Partridge @ 34

It just somehow made sense.


EvilDrPuma | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:24 pm 47
In response to yellowsnapdragon @ 37

ROFLMAO!


yellowsnapdragon | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:26 pm 48
In response to EvilDrPuma @ 47

I might take a goat, too. Just to see what happens.


ThingsComeUndone | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:26 pm 49

In the last few years, three states–Arkansas, Montana and North Carolina – repealed laws banning zoophilia, citing the laws as “unconstitutional.” WTF?

Why am I not surprised?


Margot | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:26 pm 50
In response to demi @ 45

I don’t remember, but I do remember it saved my job, literally. I was so thankful for that.


Margaret | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:26 pm 51

Going to call it an early night tonight guys. Goodnight. :-)


ratfood | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:27 pm 52
In response to yellowsnapdragon @ 48

Animal cruelty, unless you think the goat could live with the shame…


ThingsComeUndone | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:27 pm 53

Dream date with Bill drag him to a hospital in his home state to do volunteer work at a free clinic for people with no health insurance.


Lisa Derrick | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:28 pm 54

veganrevolution | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:28 pm 55

Why would I want to spend time with a war criminal, man. Tho, Obummer is worse. They all kill, man. Boomer generation are killers. They sold out, man. Big time!


demi | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:28 pm 56
In response to Margot @ 50

I only remember that because a sister of a friend of mine had worked tirelessly for his campaign, and that was a bill (as it were) that she was working to get enacted.
The ps part of the story was that Bill hit on Everyone. Just what I heard. Not trying to start rumors. (giggling here)


Kelly Canfield | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:29 pm 57
In response to Margaret @ 36

Still searching – but I found a good one of belch though

http://thumbsnap.com/5cJzzm5Z


Lisa Derrick | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:29 pm 58
In response to Margaret @ 51

Night Margaret!


EvilDrPuma | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:30 pm 59
In response to ThingsComeUndone @ 49

I’m surprised that South Carolina isn’t on the list. Aren’t they the national leader for flat-out weirdness right now?


ThingsComeUndone | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:30 pm 60
In response to newtonusr @ 38

Mark Penn proof that once an Authoritarian guy finds something that works he ignores all evidence when its not working.


DrDick | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:31 pm 61
In response to Margaret @ 51

Night.


Kelly Canfield | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:31 pm 62
In response to Margaret @ 51

Awww dang – nighty night lady!


Lisa Derrick | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:32 pm 63

demi | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:32 pm 64
In response to Kelly Canfield @ 62

See who you’re stuck with? (smirk)


ratfood | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:33 pm 65
In response to demi @ 56

I’ve always thought for a completely dysfunctional couple Bill and Hil must have done something right, because Chelsea appears to be pretty cool. Perhaps thanks to great nannies (why does this thread keep circling back to goats?).


ThingsComeUndone | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:33 pm 66
In response to EvilDrPuma @ 59

Maine the Tea baggers just rewrote the GOP platform, then there is of course AZ nobody sane risks an economic boycott during a recession but yes South Carolina is in the running.


Teddy Partridge | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:34 pm 67
In response to Lisa Derrick @ 46

It makes sense to you and me, dear.
Others, I’m not so sure.


Kelly Canfield | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:34 pm 68
In response to demi @ 64

I just lurves me my Peg is all.


ratfood | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:35 pm 69
In response to Kelly Canfield @ 57

That is a good one and looks like a world class belch to boot. I’m guessing that was taken around the 2 minute mark..? “g”


Lisa Derrick | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:35 pm 70
In response to EvilDrPuma @ 59

I love that in SC you have to register your tewwowist organization with the secretary of state, submitting the form in duplicate and $5. If you don;t have the form when you’re caught for being a tewwowist, you’ll be even MORE punished!


demi | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:36 pm 71
In response to ratfood @ 65

I’ve been humming What’s Love Got To Do With It lately.
PS, speaking of dysfunctional, my daughter sent me a M’s Day card that said We Put The Fun In Dysfunctional. Oh, she also sent me flowers and a box with prizes. She’s a good un. For a girl born into a weird family.


veganrevolution | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:36 pm 72

Bill Clinton is a lying war criminal, like all US presidents and all heads of state. The state is evil and violent. It must be abolished.


newtonusr | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:36 pm 73
In response to ratfood @ 65

They could be great parents and still be wankers in other walks. I always thought so.


ThingsComeUndone | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:36 pm 74
In response to Lisa Derrick @ 70

Do the local militia have to register?


Kelly Canfield | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:36 pm 75
In response to Teddy Partridge @ 67

What, because it’s Bill E Goats, or Mickey Kaus is running some bogus campaign or what?

Spill your guts, elitist Sonoma Wine Swilling blogger types… :)


demi | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:38 pm 76
In response to Kelly Canfield @ 68

She is the Tops! The Queen of Sheba. I gotta heart for her too.


Teddy Partridge | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:38 pm 77
In response to ThingsComeUndone @ 60

And can bill others for it until the cows come home.

I mean, who hires that guy after the mistakes he made on Hillary’s campaign? Not understanding caucus states? Give me a break….


DrDick | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:38 pm 78
In response to veganrevolution @ 72

Somalia is lovely this time of year.


ThingsComeUndone | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:38 pm 79
In response to ratfood @ 65

(why does this thread keep circling back to goats?).

Lisa wants a pet Goat but the city won’t let her have one? I suggested seeing, eye goat, attack goat, or that she needed the goat for religious reasons.


Lisa Derrick | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:38 pm 80
In response to Teddy Partridge @ 67

I once gave an Oxfam goat as a gift to CS Lewis’ stepson DOug Gresham–he is a Christian and has some sort of “hospitality ministry” where religius kids come and work in his b&b.


Teddy Partridge | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:39 pm 81
In response to ratfood @ 65

Sure, Chelsea’s pretty cool, but she’s marrying a Goldman dude.


demi | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:39 pm 82
In response to newtonusr @ 73

Your comment made me think of a new song.
Wank, wank, wank. Another one stains a dress.
(Don’t ask. I’m in a weird mood. ) Newt!


EvilDrPuma | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:39 pm 83
In response to Lisa Derrick @ 70

White tewwowists need not apply, of course.


DrDick | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:39 pm 84
In response to ThingsComeUndone @ 74

White Christians can never, by definition, be terrorists, only those brown folks with the funny religions.


Margaret | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:40 pm 85
In response to Kelly Canfield @ 57

Glad I checked back before I signed off. Thanks forn the pic of belch. :-)


Teddy Partridge | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:40 pm 86
In response to Kelly Canfield @ 57

Oh, my, that’s a handsome one you’ve got there Miss Canfield.


papau | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:40 pm 87
In response to Lisa Derrick @ 31

I also admire and like Bill – and Hillary – and feel a few hours talking with him would a memory to treasure.

But Obama was going to help retire Hillary’s debt in return for using her mailing list – guess that was yet another Obama promise that he never really planned to keep. Obama seems very predictable. Sorry Hillary but you need to do more than write off the millions you loaned your campaign – you need fund raising more than a year later because Obama failed to keep his promise.

In any case – this seems a great opportunity to meet a great man – so thanks Obama.


Kelly Canfield | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:40 pm 88
In response to ratfood @ 69

No! In that one he was all “You did NOT just DO that!” because I had adjusted the best maid’s tits at the rehearsal dinner at a wedding up in Summit County.

I was quite deft and non sexual about it. It was purely a fashion move, but alas people get all weird about that kind of thing.


ratfood | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:42 pm 89
In response to newtonusr @ 73

Yep and good parents can raise really messed up kids too. Having progeny is such a crap shoot.


Margaret | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:42 pm 90
In response to demi @ 76

You guys are going to make me blush on the way to bed. I love all me pups too!


Lisa Derrick | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:42 pm 91
In response to ThingsComeUndone @ 74

I would think the militia SHOULD! Also a couple of religious organizations

And good memory about my desire for a goat. I think if I said “religious reasons” they might get worried…

One of our local food places–generic burrito/taco joint has an Ecuadorian section on the menu with goat meat.


newtonusr | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:42 pm 92
In response to Kelly Canfield @ 88

Ah, The Gay man’s privilege….
Might be what the Goopers are so pissed about.


demi | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:42 pm 93
In response to DrDick @ 84

Not to mention, shoes.


ThingsComeUndone | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:43 pm 94
In response to Teddy Partridge @ 77

A real book about Mark Penn’s role in the campaign would be a good read. Tactically Mark was a disaster for a pollster not to notice how much the country was shifting left on the issues thats political malpractice.
Hilary needed to say National Healthcare and End both Wars Now and she would have won.
You can’t micro trend when the Macro Trend is overwhelming.


newtonusr | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:43 pm 95
In response to ratfood @ 89

I don’t care about the Goldman guy. Yet.
But she seems pretty damned adjusted.


DrDick | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:44 pm 96
In response to Lisa Derrick @ 91

Cabrito is really quite tasty.


ratfood | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:45 pm 97
In response to demi @ 71

Weird families can produce good kids. My parents had three practice kids but on the fourth try they got me.


demi | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:46 pm 98
In response to Teddy Partridge @ 86

I think so too. Me and Kelly like Handsome, Intelligent and Creative.
Ha. Once, some jerk said to me, Oh, I really like intelligent women who are intelligent. I laughed in his face and said, Gee, most guys go for ugly and stupid. See how I am?


Kelly Canfield | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:46 pm 99
In response to newtonusr @ 92

That’s really true.

Manouvers:(should generally begin with “follow me for a second girl…”)

Deft deft, 1
Deft deft, 2
deft deft, 3

15 seconds and hair, tits and pearls are perfect! Grin at each other looking for spinach in the teeth etc. and then re-enter the gathering.

Sometimes there just ain’t that outtatheway place, ok?


ratfood | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:46 pm 100
In response to Kelly Canfield @ 88

Well, timing is everything. Was it in the middle of the ceremony?


veganrevolution | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:47 pm 101
In response to DrDick @ 78

Hey man, our tax dollars go to kill more defenseless children in Iraq and Afghanistan. Obummer loves killing brown people.

Somalia is hardly a libertarian paradise, dude. Warlords are like US presidents.


ThingsComeUndone | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:47 pm 102
In response to DrDick @ 84

So the Klan and the Nazi’s get a pass? If thats true we can really boost African American turnout by using African American media to say this is what the GOP wants to do to the rest of America.
That and contributions to both groups would be tax deductible.


newtonusr | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:47 pm 103
In response to Kelly Canfield @ 99

bastard…


newtonusr | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:47 pm 104
In response to ratfood @ 100

ok, that’s funny!


Kelly Canfield | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:48 pm 105
In response to ratfood @ 100

LOL! No! The Rehearsal!


ratfood | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:48 pm 106
In response to ThingsComeUndone @ 79

Sounds like a camouflage goat might be just the ticket.


demi | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:48 pm 107
In response to demi @ 98

Shit. I meant Beautiful and Intelligent. I get so spoiled on the threads where I can Edit. :(


ThingsComeUndone | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:49 pm 108
In response to Lisa Derrick @ 91

I think if I said “religious reasons” they might get worried…

Let them worry:) No? How about you say the Goat is like the Cow sacred and must never be harmed only worshipped?


DrDick | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:49 pm 109
In response to ThingsComeUndone @ 102

They had a free pass for 8 years until recently and for a decade before that, even though they have committed more terrorist acts and killed more people in this country than all other terrorist groups combined.


Lisa Derrick | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:49 pm 110
In response to DrDick @ 84

So McVeigh and Nichols weren’t Christians?


demi | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:49 pm 111
In response to Kelly Canfield @ 99

Good Lord. Every girl needs one of You!!


Lisa Derrick | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:51 pm 112

while we’re on the subjects of white tewwowists

http://www.bangordailynews.com/detail/143144.html

BUCKSPORT, Maine — A fledgling, self-proclaimed hate group is trying to recruit area young people to join its white supremacy effort.

The Bucksport Bay White Youth Pride Party in recent weeks has distributed fliers inviting young people between the ages of 15 and 35 to join. The fliers, which contain what appear to be “cut and paste” images of a swastika and a Nazi flag have been placed in the downtown area since April 21.

,


DrDick | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:52 pm 113
In response to Lisa Derrick @ 110

According to the Republicans and a lot of folks in the press, they do not seem to be terrorists. If we took rightwing and Xtianist terrorism seriously, Randall Terry would be at the top of the terror watch list.


ThingsComeUndone | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:53 pm 114
In response to ratfood @ 106

Maybe you don’t tell the city anything but build a real high fence?


newtonusr | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:53 pm 115
In response to DrDick @ 113

Wicked-smart point.


ratfood | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:54 pm 116
In response to Lisa Derrick @ 112

Guess we should be grateful that to date the secular hate groups suck at marketing (“Don’t forget to put a swastika on there man, that’ll bring ‘em running.”).

Now the non-secular hate groups on the other hand…


ThingsComeUndone | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:56 pm 117
In response to DrDick @ 109

True yet immigrants must carry papers.


DrDick | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:56 pm 118
In response to newtonusr @ 115

By any reasonable standard, Operation Rescue is as much or more of a terrorist organization as 99% of the Muslim organizations on the list now.


ratfood | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:56 pm 119
In response to ThingsComeUndone @ 114

Nah, just dress him in an Armani suit and get him some cool shades.


veganrevolution | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:57 pm 120

The 2 party system is a fraud. Our system is a fraud. You aren’t going to reform it. The Dems are right wingers, can’t you see it???

The modern Dem Party is equal to the Repub Party in the 70s!!!!! Obummer and Clinton are neoliberal corporatists bent on impoverishing all of us!!! Stop supporting reich wingers posing as progressives.


ThingsComeUndone | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:57 pm 121
In response to ratfood @ 119

Then tell people he’s Joe Camel soon to star in a series of commercials.


greenfun | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:58 pm 122

Why all the snark? Hillary needs to retire that debt, and she STILL would have been a better POTUS than Obama. I was one of those dems that didn’t get caught up in Obama’s marketing campaign and voted for the candidate with some real experience. At least Bill took his presidency from record deficits to a surplus, and added more new jobs than any other administration. It wasn’t all great, but we were better off than we are now.


DrDick | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:59 pm 123
In response to ThingsComeUndone @ 117

I made the point somewhere a few days ago that Over the last ten years, as illegal immigration increased dramatically, the crime rate in Arizona dropped significantly. Clearly proves that illegal immigrants fight crime and that we should be deporting native born Arizonans.


Lisa Derrick | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:59 pm 124
In response to ThingsComeUndone @ 114

well, my neighbors had a rooster and then a goose–both of which “disappeared” (since then they’ve had a couple of dogs)–so maybe I could get a mini-goat, they are super cute. I wonder though how much of my yard it would eat…but like, people can have pigs as pets.


Twain | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:59 pm 125

Take a breath.


ratfood | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:59 pm 126
In response to veganrevolution @ 120

The 2 party system is a fraud? No WAY! I want some of what YOU’RE smoking.


ThingsComeUndone | Tuesday May 11, 2010 08:59 pm 127
In response to veganrevolution @ 120

Stop supporting reich wingers posing as progressives.

We stopped doing that in the fall.


DrDick | Tuesday May 11, 2010 09:00 pm 128
In response to ratfood @ 119

They might confuse him with Mickey Kaus’s campaign manager.


CTuttle | Tuesday May 11, 2010 09:01 pm 129
In response to ratfood @ 97

Three outta four ain’t bad…! ;-)


Kelly Canfield | Tuesday May 11, 2010 09:01 pm 130

[Just to increase my sense of absurdity, it's May 11th and it's snowing like mad at my house.]

Carry on.


DrDick | Tuesday May 11, 2010 09:01 pm 131
In response to Lisa Derrick @ 124

It is not the lawn, but the bushes and trees you have to worry about. Goats are browsers, not grazers.


ratfood | Tuesday May 11, 2010 09:02 pm 132
In response to Lisa Derrick @ 124

I believe the Cooper Mini-goats are still in vogue. Kinda pricey, though.

Thanks for the fun, Lisa. Believe I will call it a night. Sweet dreams to all.


ThingsComeUndone | Tuesday May 11, 2010 09:02 pm 133
In response to DrDick @ 123

That and the Media the GOP and Jon McCain should all be forced to learn how to use google 5 minutes on google disproves all the immigrants cause crime lies.
And the GOP wonders why they can’t get the youth vote.


Twain | Tuesday May 11, 2010 09:02 pm 134
In response to Kelly Canfield @ 130

Are you going to build a snowman?


ratfood | Tuesday May 11, 2010 09:02 pm 135
In response to CTuttle @ 129

Wise guy, eh? “g”


DrDick | Tuesday May 11, 2010 09:03 pm 136
In response to Kelly Canfield @ 130

Several years ago we had six inches of heavy wet snow on June 9. Kind of a shock to the system.


veganrevolution | Tuesday May 11, 2010 09:03 pm 137
In response to ratfood @ 126

Obummer is now poised to destroy Soc Sec and all the liberals will say: “Yes, sir may I have another.” Wackkkkkk.

Pathetic.


ThingsComeUndone | Tuesday May 11, 2010 09:03 pm 138
In response to Lisa Derrick @ 124

Wait its not a goat its a green lawn cutting device!


Kelly Canfield | Tuesday May 11, 2010 09:04 pm 139
In response to DrDick @ 131

I love those nubian goats. [Watch it people - do not get snarky with me about them.]

They are just crazy, and can hop up on top of your car, garage, fence, rooftop. You never know where you’ll see them and they’re insanely good escape artists.


DrDick | Tuesday May 11, 2010 09:04 pm 140
In response to ratfood @ 132

Nighters. Give Bob a kiss for me.


ThingsComeUndone | Tuesday May 11, 2010 09:04 pm 141

Nite Rat:)


CTuttle | Tuesday May 11, 2010 09:04 pm 142
In response to ratfood @ 135

Who me…? Aloha, rf…!


Kelly Canfield | Tuesday May 11, 2010 09:05 pm 143
In response to Twain @ 134

It’s that slurpee kinda snow…


newtonusr | Tuesday May 11, 2010 09:05 pm 144

nite rat


ChristineEdmonson | Tuesday May 11, 2010 09:05 pm 145
In response to Kelly Canfield @ 130

And I’m wrapped in a blanket, with outdoor temps of 42 degrees here. And cashmere socks! My geraniums are seriously compromised.


Kelly Canfield | Tuesday May 11, 2010 09:05 pm 146

Adios RF!


DrDick | Tuesday May 11, 2010 09:06 pm 147
In response to Kelly Canfield @ 139

That is pretty much true of all goats. My mother used to tell stories about a goat they had when she was growing up. Also had a friend who raised goats when I was in college and they were all crazy. Mighty good eating, however. He used to hold a massive goat roast every 4th of July.


veganrevolution | Tuesday May 11, 2010 09:07 pm 148

Maybe when we are all eating out of garbage pails, then maybe the left (not really a left in the USA) will wake up and fight like the Greeks are doing as we speak!


DrDick | Tuesday May 11, 2010 09:10 pm 149
In response to veganrevolution @ 148

A big part of the problem is that, unlike greece or the rest of europe and Japan, we do not actually have a leftist press in this country. We used to, but the Depression, Joseph Stalin, and media consolidation killed it.


Kelly Canfield | Tuesday May 11, 2010 09:10 pm 150
In response to veganrevolution @ 148

There’s plenty of “take action” threads on the blog, but this particular thread is social and whimsy. Because there’s a place and time for it, and it happens to be here and now.

So wouldja mind not to try and hijack it?


CTuttle | Tuesday May 11, 2010 09:10 pm 151
In response to Kelly Canfield @ 139

Nubian Goat milk is the best goat milk…! But, they’re the ornery-ist goats of the lot…!


Lisa Derrick | Tuesday May 11, 2010 09:10 pm 152
In response to DrDick @ 131

Mmm…I have some 3 ft tall mint plants, a big verbena, different flowering sages, brugmansia (angel’s trumpet, a relative of datura) and a belladonna shurb that has been turned into t a tree by my sainted gardener.

My dog likes to eat the verbena and the Mexican ‘oregano’ [Lippia graveolens (Verbenaceae)]


DrDick | Tuesday May 11, 2010 09:12 pm 153
In response to Lisa Derrick @ 152

Would make for some interestingly flavored meat. ;)


CTuttle | Tuesday May 11, 2010 09:14 pm 154
In response to DrDick @ 153

Hopefully it’s not a Black dog, she has, Dr. D…!


ThingsComeUndone | Tuesday May 11, 2010 09:14 pm 155
In response to veganrevolution @ 148

Those who can’t laugh at themselves will drive themselves mad. We laugh at ourselves and everyone with just as much passion as we use to go after Bush or Obama.
If we have to go to the streets we will but it will be because we decide too.


Kelly Canfield | Tuesday May 11, 2010 09:14 pm 156
In response to CTuttle @ 151

And they’re very cute! This one is like the ones my friend Jack and his husband have.

30 of them.

Yes, he’s insane. But he has 20 acres out past the airport.


DrDick | Tuesday May 11, 2010 09:15 pm 157

Time for me to toddle off. The grading continues tomorrow, but it looks like I will be done by Friday. Yay! Take care all.


Lisa Derrick | Tuesday May 11, 2010 09:16 pm 158
In response to CTuttle @ 151

It might be fun to milk the goat. But maybe I should start witha apir of layig hens and see how responsible I am.

Actually we are putting in a small pond for the migratory birds–I think I may have mentioned that an young egret flew into my neighbor’s yard last spring, so I got inspired. Water features help the birds. I have one small wall fountain already which they love.

And Mr. Bruce, unlike my previous cats, doesn’t go outside and hunt. Bruce is um…very indoors oriented


ThingsComeUndone | Tuesday May 11, 2010 09:17 pm 159
In response to DrDick @ 153

If we fed enough Cows oregano, mint, hot peppers or pot would the meat be pre flavored?


ThingsComeUndone | Tuesday May 11, 2010 09:17 pm 160

Nite Dr Dick :)


demi | Tuesday May 11, 2010 09:17 pm 161
In response to DrDick @ 157

Good night and pleasant dreams, Dick. Take good care of yourself.


CTuttle | Tuesday May 11, 2010 09:18 pm 162
In response to DrDick @ 157

Aloha, Dr. D…!


CTuttle | Tuesday May 11, 2010 09:19 pm 163
In response to Kelly Canfield @ 156

Ahh, the classic brown and black stripes of the Nubians…!


ThingsComeUndone | Tuesday May 11, 2010 09:19 pm 164
In response to Lisa Derrick @ 158

egret

I haven’t seen a Blue Heron since I left Illinois :(


Lisa Derrick | Tuesday May 11, 2010 09:21 pm 165

DrDick | Tuesday May 11, 2010 09:21 pm 166
In response to ThingsComeUndone @ 159

What they eat definitely affects the flavor of the meat, though I have no idea what that would taste like. I do know that you do not want to drink the milk of cows that have been eating wild onions. Yech!


Lisa Derrick | Tuesday May 11, 2010 09:21 pm 167

Night Dr D!


CTuttle | Tuesday May 11, 2010 09:22 pm 168
In response to Lisa Derrick @ 158

Chickens are virtually worry free, just have a water supply and throw out some chicken feed once in awhile and you’re good…!


Lisa Derrick | Tuesday May 11, 2010 09:23 pm 169
In response to DrDick @ 166

Would cows or goats that ate cannabis produce stony milk?


ThingsComeUndone | Tuesday May 11, 2010 09:23 pm 170
In response to DrDick @ 166

Thanks this requires more research on my part:)


demi | Tuesday May 11, 2010 09:23 pm 171
In response to ThingsComeUndone @ 164

The second to last time I camping, I swear I saw a creature that looked like a Great Blue Heron. It was a wild life preserve, so, coulda been. It was awsome. I watched until it took flight. Very prehistoric. It was.


CTuttle | Tuesday May 11, 2010 09:25 pm 172
In response to Lisa Derrick @ 165

Cool, He’s a Himalayan…! ;-)


Kelly Canfield | Tuesday May 11, 2010 09:25 pm 173
In response to Lisa Derrick @ 169

Well, the sweeter the grass, the sweeter the milk.

Eat some alfalfa, then eat some raw weed. You’ll see! LOL!


Lisa Derrick | Tuesday May 11, 2010 09:26 pm 174

In olden days, the butter of cows would be paler or more yellow depending on the season and where they were grazed. And my friend brought me sheep cheese from her home province of Italy which is renown for its flavor that comes from the herbs the sheep munch. I wish I could recall WHICH province, it was like 1994 or 95 when I had that cheese, it was sooo good–though my memory isn’t so much now.


ThingsComeUndone | Tuesday May 11, 2010 09:26 pm 175
In response to demi @ 171

They are very cool birds:)


ChristineEdmonson | Tuesday May 11, 2010 09:27 pm 176

OT,
Watching a making of Robin Hood, History International. Pretty interesting show about medieval weapons and animals (paltry horses).


ThingsComeUndone | Tuesday May 11, 2010 09:29 pm 177

Questions have also been raised about the safety of an offshore well that Chevron has started drilling off the coast of Newfoundland. It will be deeper than the one in the Gulf of Mexico.

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Environment/Suzuki/2010/05/11/13913161.html

OT more bad news.


Phoenix Woman | Tuesday May 11, 2010 09:29 pm 178

Ah, so Hillary’s still paying off the money she wasted on Mark Penn?


demi | Tuesday May 11, 2010 09:30 pm 179
In response to Kelly Canfield @ 173

I got some sweet for you.


Lisa Derrick | Tuesday May 11, 2010 09:30 pm 180
In response to CTuttle @ 172

Yes, a former sex worker too. He was in a cattery as a stud cat, but he didn’t do so well, plus his eyes are gray not blue so it was a gamble breeding him. The cattery gave him to us–they had taken him in after this previous cattery’s owner died–and all we had to do was get him fixed and LOVE him, which is easy. he is very sweet.


ThingsComeUndone | Tuesday May 11, 2010 09:30 pm 181
In response to ThingsComeUndone @ 177

Canada, however, has no plans to halt East Coast or Arctic drilling, and the B.C. government continues to push for drilling off the West Coast.


Kelly Canfield | Tuesday May 11, 2010 09:31 pm 182
In response to Lisa Derrick @ 174

FFA told me (about 1,000 years ago) that butterfat is more yellow when there is more carotene present in what the cow is grazing.


Lisa Derrick | Tuesday May 11, 2010 09:31 pm 183
In response to ChristineEdmonson @ 176

WOW, sounds good! I saw the ads for the new Robin Hood with Russel Crowe, looking forward to it.


Kelly Canfield | Tuesday May 11, 2010 09:31 pm 184
In response to ChristineEdmonson @ 176

Heh – I’m watching that too!


ThingsComeUndone | Tuesday May 11, 2010 09:32 pm 185
In response to Phoenix Woman @ 178

Yes


Kelly Canfield | Tuesday May 11, 2010 09:32 pm 186
In response to demi @ 179

Smoochback!


CTuttle | Tuesday May 11, 2010 09:33 pm 187
In response to Lisa Derrick @ 180

Most Himalayans are super lovey-dovey…! ;-)


ChristineEdmonson | Tuesday May 11, 2010 09:33 pm 188
In response to Lisa Derrick @ 183

The show incorporates the actors from the movie — really great!


ChristineEdmonson | Tuesday May 11, 2010 09:35 pm 189
In response to Kelly Canfield @ 184

I love this stuff! We are having a medieval show in October.


Lisa Derrick | Tuesday May 11, 2010 09:36 pm 190

We just finished American Idol and are watching Intervention on TiVo. We try to stay shallow here at the Hades Home for Young Wayward Ladies.


Lisa Derrick | Tuesday May 11, 2010 09:38 pm 191
In response to CTuttle @ 187

ChristineEdmonson | Tuesday May 11, 2010 09:38 pm 192

Kelly,
They are talking about troubadours — I think this is you in another life.


aoyama | Tuesday May 11, 2010 09:39 pm 193

Hey Late Night. Way off topic, but is it compulsory for socialists to be indifferent about sexism, homophobia, anti-semitism. Heard that from a liberal friend today.


CTuttle | Tuesday May 11, 2010 09:39 pm 194
In response to Lisa Derrick @ 190

My wife and I are huge ‘Army Wives’ fans…!


Kelly Canfield | Tuesday May 11, 2010 09:40 pm 195
In response to Lisa Derrick @ 191

That is an Afghani pattern in that rug in your kitteh pics! belch hauled the one we have home from Karachi in ’99!


Mary McCurnin | Tuesday May 11, 2010 09:42 pm 196
In response to demi @ 171

We have one that lives on the river behind my house.


Kelly Canfield | Tuesday May 11, 2010 09:43 pm 197
In response to ChristineEdmonson @ 192

Troubadors, torch singers, lounge lizards – we’re all the same!


Lisa Derrick | Tuesday May 11, 2010 09:44 pm 198
In response to aoyama @ 193

Oh well, then I guess I am not a socialist. How are they supposed to feel about bestiality?

And, so to bring it back to tonight’s topic (as if THAT matters, really! Not.): If socialists are indifferent to bestiality, does that mean 17 out 50 of our states here in the good ole US of A are SOCIALIST because they don’t care if people practice some animal lovin’?


ThingsComeUndone | Tuesday May 11, 2010 09:45 pm 199
In response to aoyama @ 193

Why would we be indifferent about many of the problems we want to fix? I’m not a card carrying socialist so maybe I’m missing something?


Mary McCurnin | Tuesday May 11, 2010 09:46 pm 200
In response to Lisa Derrick @ 198

Naw. They are just libertarians. The animals are in the green party.


ChristineEdmonson | Tuesday May 11, 2010 09:47 pm 201
In response to Kelly Canfield @ 197

Language scholars, lovers of romance, chivalry soldiers…


Lisa Derrick | Tuesday May 11, 2010 09:47 pm 202
In response to Kelly Canfield @ 195

Wow, thanks! I didn’t know it was Afghani. It is the best rug in the house and the only “real” one. The others are repros.


Kelly Canfield | Tuesday May 11, 2010 09:48 pm 203
In response to ChristineEdmonson @ 201

You’re too nice to me.


ChristineEdmonson | Tuesday May 11, 2010 09:49 pm 204

Long live Robin Hood!


ChristineEdmonson | Tuesday May 11, 2010 09:49 pm 205
In response to Kelly Canfield @ 203

Long live Robin Hood, I meant to you!


ChristineEdmonson | Tuesday May 11, 2010 09:50 pm 206

Oh, sorry folks, I’m off to Jimmy Fallon…back later!


CTuttle | Tuesday May 11, 2010 09:51 pm 207
In response to Lisa Derrick @ 198

*heh* Who are we to delve into one’s bedroom or barn stall…? ;-)


Margot | Tuesday May 11, 2010 09:54 pm 208
In response to ChristineEdmonson @ 145

Chris, it’s 70 degrees here and rainy. I hope you guys get our warm weather tomorrow.


Lisa Derrick | Tuesday May 11, 2010 09:55 pm 209

I just switched over to Robin Hood too. Usually we watch Nancy “Strangled then triple bagged like trash with heart shaped sticker place over her mouth” Grace. If we were a drinking household, every time she said “the twins” or “tot mom” we’d take a shot…


Kelly Canfield | Tuesday May 11, 2010 09:56 pm 210
In response to aoyama @ 193

…but is it compulsory for socialists to be indifferent about sexism, homophobia, anti-semitism. Heard that from a liberal friend today.

It’s interesting to me how you very often ask questions without asking them, and make claims without making them.


ChristineEdmonson | Tuesday May 11, 2010 09:56 pm 211
In response to Margot @ 208

Oh Margot, I hope so too! We are cold!


Lisa Derrick | Tuesday May 11, 2010 09:57 pm 212
In response to Margot @ 208

I’d like some rain..I love rain. Rain in Los Angeles means I save enough water for a bubble bath!


Lisa Derrick | Tuesday May 11, 2010 10:01 pm 213

Night all! Thanks for hanging out! Mr Bruce sez “Oh kthnxbai!”


aoyama | Tuesday May 11, 2010 10:06 pm 214
In response to Lisa Derrick @ 198

Not in my state. We have strict laws against bestiality. We like our squirrels, deer, fish, our pets. We don’t have as many farm animals, but the ones we do have have that legal protection, thank goodness. As for those other 17 states, I don’t know if the socialists are making a difference one way or other.


aoyama | Tuesday May 11, 2010 10:11 pm 215
In response to Kelly Canfield @ 210

How can I learn if I don’t ask. I’m new to all this. I was hoping one of the socialists here would set me straight. Honest.


newtonusr | Tuesday May 11, 2010 10:15 pm 216
In response to aoyama @ 193

Heard that from a liberal friend today.

He was probably neither.


aoyama | Tuesday May 11, 2010 10:30 pm 217
In response to newtonusr @ 216

No, the friend is all three, woman, jewish, gay, you know like Kagan. We were talking about some of the real issues Kagan presents for liberals, isolated from the weakness many on the right and also the left have for sexism, anti-semitism, and homophobia.


archiebird | Wednesday May 12, 2010 04:40 am 218

Okay excuse me for getiing in on this conversation late, but I thought Obama was gonna help Clinton pay off her debt? What ever happened to that? I guess I could google it and see what I find.


papau | Wednesday May 12, 2010 06:05 am 219
In response to aoyama @ 217

“aoyama” re “No, the friend is all three, woman, jewish, gay, you know like Kagan. We were talking about some of the real issues Kagan presents for liberals, isolated from the weakness many on the right and also the left have for sexism, anti-semitism, and homophobia.”

If our corporate controlled world ever needs a dittohead to change the subject you will have my recommendation.

Meanwhile you might want to learn what words mean – their history and as practiced today – as in “liberal” and “progressive”. Your high school teachers should be teaching you that assertions buried in “questions” is something that will lose you debate points – although the technique does get you a job on Fox.


greenfun | Wednesday May 12, 2010 07:01 am 220

How would you like to have dinner with President Obama and Sen. Barbara Boxer?

Mark May 25 on your calendar. Because that day, you and a friend could be in beautiful San Francisco, sharing a meal with two of our all-time favorite Democrats, as our guests. President Obama will be campaigning for Sen. Boxer, and we’d love to have you meet them. You’ll even get your photo taken with President Obama as a memento of an unforgettable evening.


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