Thanks for this, Lisa. 60 k. Not a bad turn out.

We all have a DREAM! At least left blogistan.

Why is it so difficult to follow the original fence plan, that was drafted by Rep. Duncan Hunter (R-CA) who co-authored the 2006 Secure Fence Act, ? Under his leadership, nearly sixty miles of fencing along the border in San Diego County has been constructed. As Chairman of the House Armed Services Committee Duncan Hunter had proposed building two parallel steel and wire fences running from the Gulf of Mexico to the Pacific Coast. Hunter called for building a reinforced, two-layer 15′ fence, separated by a 100-yard gap, (NO-MANS-LAND) along the entire length of the US border with Mexico, which patrols could easily navigate to apprehend narcotics smugglers and illegal aliens. It was to include additional physical barriers, powerful lighting and sensors to detect illegal border crossers. But what happened the initial fence plan was undermined for a single layer fence, with concrete buttresses to stop vehicles with many virtual methods that malfunctioned.

The Omnibus Consolidated Appropriations bill would specifically eliminate the mandate of the Secure Fence Act of 2006, even though Hunters fence was extremely successful. Up to 2009 a–TRILLION DOLLARS is been appropriated to fight the Iraq and Afghanistan war, but as always American taxpayers have been–SHORT CHANGED–when it comes to the fence between the US and Mexico. MILITARIZE THE BORDER NOW WITH WELL ARMED TROOPS? Congress appropriated billions for Israels border fence, but the American people who paid for its construction–get nothing but a fence that incredulously built poorly, underfunded and is far from finished.

Prior Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said a barrier running the length of a border would “COST” too much. A 2,000 mile state-of-the-art border fence has been estimated to cost between four and eight billion dollars. The expenditures for a single fence that would run the entire length of the border would be as low as $851 million for a standard 10-foot prison chain link fence topped with razor wire. For another $362 million, the fence could carry electrified nodes, but was never implemented. Initially it was estimated that Representative Hunters San Diego fence would cost $14 million — about $1 million a mile. The first 11 miles of the fence would eventually cost $42 million — $3.8 million per mile. Since the inception of the border fence across the USA, millions of dollars have been wasted on Boeing manufacturers malfunctioning equipment.

EVEN TODAY THERE ARE HUGE OPEN AREAS, WITH NOTHING TO STOP ANY ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT, DRUG SMUGGLERS OR TERRORISTS, BUT RUSTY BARBED WARE FENCING? IT”S BEEN ONE SWEET LIE BY WASHINGTON.

By one estimate each year between 400,000 and 1 million illegal immigrants try to slip across the rivers and deserts on the 2,000-mile (3,200-km) US-Mexico border. In 2005 over 1.2 million foreign nationals were apprehended by the Border Patrol. By one estimate the Border Patrol catches 1 out of every 10 illegal border crossers, but the officials prefer to remain silent on the subject in discussing the problem. Tuscon unofficial Border Patrol statistics are that only 1 in 10 illegal aliens are apprehended and arrested. By another estimate over 155,000 non-Mexican individuals were apprehended trying to enter the United States along the Southwest border in fiscal year 2005. The figure of illegal aliens is now between 20 and 30 million. Learn more about illegal immigration and the massive costs to you if AMNESTY passes. There should be no restraints on funding any of these measures when it comes to the American people’s protection, for jobs, taxes, infrastructure, ecosystem, population growth and more. To learn more go to NumbersUSA website

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Will somebody, anybody – any law enforcement types, ICE, my next door neighbor, whomever – say to me “papers please”.

I carry my ID with me ALL the times and I am quite proud, thank you, to show and prove to anyone who asks – and for whatever reason – that I’m an American. How about you?

So I have to beg the question: Why do the hysterical drama queens always end a conversation about immigration reform with the same old knee jerk, bleating and braying that it’s “racism” when somebody asks for your ID?

Sorry FDLers, I can’t see any rational reason why somebody would go ape shit over this issue. I can except that maybe it’s just in your nature to have an emotional, viseral response to that type of questioning by your nature, but it ain’t “racism”. Or, do you protest to much because you might be called out for being in the country illegally…

Hunter.
Who wants to send born-citizens back, because he wants to ‘keep families together’. There has likely not been a bigger truckload of manure in Congress in quite some time.

Your nativist slips are showing. Pretty crude to attach yourself to someone so detestable.

Oh dear. I saw that headline “May Day in LA” and wasn’t sure which catastrophe it referred to.

If you are a citizen with a state issued ID card or drivers license from another state, visiting AZ, how do you prove you’re a US citizen? Keep in mind that a Social Security card is not proof of ID and not every state requires a birth certificate to get a drivers license or ID.

And for the right price you can buy an SS card and matching DL in downtown LA.

Heck I look Canadian! I even sound Canadian, especially when I speak French, so how do I prove I am a US citizen? By singing The Star Spangled Banner and knowing who Rosemary Woods was? And will Canadians get stopped in AZ?

If you are a tourist from say Spain or Colombia, in AZ legally on business or vacation (for maybe the huge gem show every spring), how do you prove you are just visiting unless you carry your passport and airline tickets with you? Just having your passport doesn’t mean you’re planning to leave…

Boycoot fucking Arizona. And you sick nativists, screw you in the bargain.

A fence from sea to shining sea… yeah, yeah, that’s the ticket… NOT! What a load of hogwash. Just btw, they dig tunnels under the &^%$ fence across San Diego all of the time. So how’s that fence working out again?? Drrrrrrrrr. They also dig tunnels under the US Canadian border, too, and there’s not even a fence there.

So stupid on so many levels.

And if ya loves showing yer ID card, great! I don’t want to be asked for mine, even though I’m am born here and totally legal (except the Nativer Americans might have something to say in that regard). Don’t think we need to go there, but fine for you to have your opinion on that. And I have mine. Think it sucks.

Newt, ” . . . but I love the way you talk.”

Bless ya hoss.

Spot phooking on.

Hunter is such an unbelievable hater, makes my blood boil.
And he proves what we have always known – you get it from your parents.

Mz. Derrick, thanks for the update.

There were some GREAT turnouts on Sat, May Day, for workers, progs, commies and them socialist immigrant’s, too.

Across the country.

As usual, MSM didn’t report them, they fixated on a Time Square NY story of a EID supposed plot that was badly wired propane tanks and called it terrorism, with Al Queda quickly calling in THEY did it!

And MSM is a bit fixated, in all the wrong ways, on the BP Disaster.

AZ’s Governor’s approved legislation for enforcement, along with AZ’s jive educational shit, despite the biased coverage of IT, is gonna brang together many different groups.

And they all might just get a wift of that Gulf Coast Oil, and align up yet again.

There’s a HUGE nucleus and nexus fermenting in the ether of our existence.

As fast as Obama sold us out, top to bottom, we progs/libs just MIGHT have a response to it all, soon, hard, and fast. Unity just might be here, among disparate groupings.

Unity that is being HANDED to we the people, to unify around.

We DO live in interesting times, as we watch our planet plundered, scoured, savaged and destroyed, right in front of our eyes.

That we are at a tipping point FAR beyond the concerns of peak oil, is now obvious.

Thanks for all you do.

Yep. So that was Hunter? Wow. Worse than I ever imagined, or read.

Dead meat, in any event, regardless of his political convictions.

Not the type to survive what’s coming.

Let me see your ID.

In the Land of the Free, it should be possible to say “no” to a “papers please” request and proceed without further interruption. Free. Did you forget what that means?

And anyway, I don’t believe you have an ID on you, at all times, that proves you’re here legally. Driver’s license? Nope, won’t cut it. It’s not proof of immigration/citzenship status. To the cells windy tents for you, and a nice pink Arizona jumpsuit!

anwaya, you’re are the example of the hyperbolic drama queens with the outraguous hypothetical scenarios that makes rational, real life peoples heads explode.

First off, AZ SB 1070 DOES NOT permit or authorize law enforcement types to simply stop you for no reason at all and say “papers please”. That’s an urban myth, not true and in many cases an out right lie used by the “open border” and “scoff law” crazies to get your anti-extablishment blood boiling. Don’t be their chump.

Now, here’s the real world in ANY state in the Union, not just AZ…You can be asked to show proof of ID when LEGALLY stopped by law enforcement, and, if it’s ICE you can be asked for proof of US citizenship as well. That’s the reality of US Immigration laws – Deal with it even if it sets your hair on fire.

If you don’t have ID on you guess what, you’re detained (not handcuffed, strip searched, water boarded or beated like a rented mule) until you can show the proper ID, even if it means a trip “down town” until someone can bring your wallet to you. If you can’t produce ID then there is a pretty good chance you’re probably an ILLEGAL and should be held for further inquiry.

As for pink jump suits there’s not much to worry about because the courts will in all probability rule that the state of AZ has to turn you over to ICE for deportation if you’re an ILLEGAL, not sentence you to jail time in AZ first.

Stop reading and listening to the ginned up, blovatious headlines on AZ SB 1070 without being EXTREMELY sceptical about the source. Besides, that PAC disguised as a “civil rights group” called La Raza is bleating and braying like a love-sick teenager because it increases donations from the Latino community just like when the Teabaggers do it about health care to get more doantions from the pot bellied, gun toten’ crackers. Like I said, don’t be a chump – for either extreme…

Agree. It’s the old Aztlan movement…

A California driver’s license is reasonable proof of your right to be in the United States, as they cannot be issued to illegal aliens.

You bring up document fraud, which is interesting. It’s another crime that illegal aliens engage in quite frequently. Are you good with that, too? How about identity theft and using false Social Security numbers? No problem?