White Supremacist Rally Gets a Little Nasty

On Saturday members of the National Socialist Movement, a white supremacist group, rallied on the south lawn of Los Angeles City Hall while preaching a pro-white, racist message as part of their “Reclaim the Southwest!” agenda and a warmup for their dinner convention which was held in a secret location.

New reports say the NSM numbered about 50, while over 500 protesters were on hand along with 300 members of the Los Angeles Police Department.

Aside from a few bellows of

Sieg Heil!

the NSM speeches couldn’t be clearly heard by the protesters because the lines of riot police — a few of whom who were not white — kept the groups so separated.  Those protesting the NSM included relatives of Holocaust survivors, Black Panthers, Brown Berets, and lots of people of many races and ethnicities, including whites, who think neo-Nazis are sucky scum.

Shockingly, one LAPD officer described the event as

It’s just one group of racists protesting another group of racists.

Um, say WTF?! The crowd was as diverse as Los Angeles’ population. That sort of comment displays  the sort of narrow-minded attitude that the old LAPD — pre-Chief Bratton — had and which was supposedly supplanted with more understanding of the city’s complexities and social nuances.

There were five arrests. Some really angry protesters threw rocks and bottles at the uniformed neo-Nazis when one of the white power cars, a black Ford SUV, wouldn’t start.

Although it’s not up at their web site, KNBC Channel 4 had a report on their 11:00 p.m. newscast — interviewing an anti-Nazi protester who claimed the cops beat him with a club — but the reported record of beatings states that two crowd members sporting pro-Nazi symbols were thrashed by protesters, drawing blood. One guy was shirtless and had Nazi-themed tattoos; the other was carrying a sign reading

Christianity=Paganism=Heathen$

with an arrow pointing to a swastika, kind of a confusing message, more crazy than Nazi. The shirtless guy with the inked lightening bolts on his back and chest along with other tattoos was making a pretty clear statement, and as ugly as it was…well, just because someone is spoiling for a fight, doesn’t mean you should give them one. Both men were removed from the crowd by the cops, then treated and released. Really unfortunate, bad behavior on the part of those involved in the violence.

Free speech is just that, the right of others to say things that might be offensive. It’s not “free speech for me and not for thee,” not free speech for the majority only. If pathetic, nasty little Nazis or guys with ugly-ass tattoos and stupid signs are denied their right to speak — or beaten for exercising it — because what they say or show is considered “hate speak,” then who else could be denied their rights on that same basis?

(thanks for photos: R. Lawrence Tripp)

20 Responses to "White Supremacist Rally Gets a Little Nasty"
masaccio | Sunday April 18, 2010 08:05 am 1

Great pictures.


Suzanne | Sunday April 18, 2010 02:11 pm 2

thanks for reporting on this lisa — and those are great photos


Lisa Derrick | Sunday April 18, 2010 05:23 pm 3

Tripp is a great photographer and a great friend; known him since our days cavorting at Barrington Hall in Berkeley.


ThingsComeUndone | Sunday April 18, 2010 08:10 pm 4

If pathetic, nasty little Nazis or guys with ugly-ass tattoos and stupid signs are denied their right to speak — or beaten for exercising it — because what they say or show is considered “hate speak,” then who else could be denied their rights on that same basis?

We established the idea all Men are created equal and have the inalienable rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
Obviously anyone trying to take away an other’s civil rights to these three things is a Criminal. Other groups unless they are hate groups trying to take away people’s rights should have nothing to fear.
Free Speech ends where my rights begin. Lets reverse the question would the Nazi’s like it if we declared them undesirable and organized and debated whether exile or a final solution is needed to remove the?
Any bets the Feds wouls raid any such group in a second? If anything the Nazi’s seem to be protected any other criminal organization would not be able to rally in public.


ThingsComeUndone | Sunday April 18, 2010 08:14 pm 5

It’s just one group of racists protesting another group of racists.

No African Americans, Jews, Hispanics, Whites, Asians, Gays etc all disagreeing with the racists who want to take away everyone else’s rights.
There is no evidence that these groups all think themselves racially superior. I think the policeman is engaging in projection the LAPD should screen recruits more.


ThingsComeUndone | Monday April 19, 2010 12:17 am 6

There were five arrests. Some really angry protesters threw rocks and bottles at the uniformed neo-Nazis when one of the white power cars, a black Ford SUV, wouldn’t start.

Although it’s not up at their web site, KNBC Channel 4 had a report on their 11:00 p.m. newscast — interviewing an anti-Nazi protester who claimed the cops beat him with a club — but the reported record of beatings states that two crowd members sporting pro-Nazi symbols were thrashed by protesters, drawing blood

Less Damage than a Metallica Concert small price for free speech. Their side can crash planes into IRS buildings, plan to kill cops, shoot people but they act awful concerned when we fight back.
Speech is Free nobody said we won’t disagree with you and considering how your side is escalating things well push us we push back.


DonWilliams | Monday April 19, 2010 01:03 am 7

“It’s just one group of racists protesting another group of racists.”

Actually, it was one group violently protesting against a group making a peaceful demonstration.

The Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King weeps.


Lisa Derrick | Monday April 19, 2010 03:42 pm 8
In response to DonWilliams @ 7

Don, that a member of the LAPD would express such a thing curdled my blood.

And it was repellent that anyone got beaten up. Moreso IMO that the beatings were done by people who claim to be against hate.


ThingsComeUndone | Monday April 19, 2010 04:40 pm 9
In response to DonWilliams @ 7

Actually, it was one group violently protesting against a group making a peaceful demonstration.

Nazi’s peaceful why wait until they are redy to implement their final solution again? What’s next a Jeffery Dahlmer cooking show? The Pope wants more kids to go to Catholic school.


DonWilliams | Monday April 19, 2010 10:37 pm 10
In response to ThingsComeUndone @ 9

TCU, you want to criminalize speech. We get that.


DonWilliams | Monday April 19, 2010 10:40 pm 11
In response to Lisa Derrick @ 8

Perhaps the LAPD officer heard some racist remarks (“cracker”, “whitey” or something along those lines) that caused him to say that. Perhaps the officer who said that is Latino, or Asian, or black.

The reporting leaves huge gaps that we can each fill in with our own imaginations.


newtonusr | Monday April 19, 2010 11:25 pm 12
In response to DonWilliams @ 11

…we can each fill in with our own imaginations.

Jeebus, because it would be irresponsible NOT to speculate wildly with absolutely no foundation whatsoever.


ThingsComeUndone | Tuesday April 20, 2010 01:46 am 13
In response to DonWilliams @ 10

No just criminalize people who talk about genocide and work through the political system to achieve it and take away other people’s rights.
Hate Speech laws are common in other democracies.


ThingsComeUndone | Tuesday April 20, 2010 01:54 am 14
In response to DonWilliams @ 10

Free Speech that tries to take away other people’s Right to Free Speech does sort of negate the concept of Free Speech doesn’t it never mind the Nazi’s want to take away other people’s Right to Life you do know you can’t have Free Speech if your not alive right?


DonWilliams | Tuesday April 20, 2010 06:31 pm 15
In response to newtonusr @ 12

newtonusr, the policeman reported that the people protesting against the Nazis were racist. Unless you have some evidence of why the policeman was wrong, you’re speculating wildly.

And, I don’t think that the possibility that violent protesters of color would use a term like “whitey” or “cracker” at an event like this is a “wild speculation.”


newtonusr | Tuesday April 20, 2010 06:42 pm 16
In response to DonWilliams @ 15

Evil racists were protesting… Nazis.
Do you hear yourself saying that?


ThingsComeUndone | Tuesday April 20, 2010 09:35 pm 17
In response to newtonusr @ 16

Nice one the Cop was Projecting.


DonWilliams | Wednesday April 21, 2010 12:26 am 18
In response to newtonusr @ 16

Black racists don’t like brown racists who don’t like white racists. Mix and match to taste.


ThingsComeUndone | Wednesday April 21, 2010 05:25 am 19
In response to DonWilliams @ 18

Prove the Protesters protesting the Nazi’s are racists these are not criminal gangs out there protesting the Nazi’s and yes Black Marries Brown marries White etc even among the criminal gangs they have been doing this since Cortez.
If the Black Muslims showed up you might have a case I am unaware of their recent position on the matter.
Heck if the Mormons showed up to protest the Nazi’s you might have a case my Sister in Law’s been telling me stories of the old days and I am unaware of their current position on the matter of race.


johnboy | Thursday April 22, 2010 06:06 pm 20

Lisa, you call the neo-Nazis “sucky scum”? What are you, 14 or 15?


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