Crybaby Councilman May Resign Over Parking Tickets

What a baby! What a douche! Huntington Beach councilman has collected a dozen street cleaning tickets because he can’t be bothered to move his car on street sweeping day. And now after his latest ticket, he’s threatening to resign. Good riddance. First term councilman Devin Dwyer told the Orange County Register:

I’m enraged. The practice of extorting funds out of us so they can pay for different things just drives me crazy. … If I can’t get the change, then why am I even here?

Dwyer thinks street sweepers should make beeping noises so residents can run out and move their cars, and that if a car is parked, the sweeper should just come back later. Wow, cost on that please?

And besides, that’s not how it works. Street sweeping is during certain set hours and there’s no parking during that entire time. The sweeper might come at 8:15, at 9:37 or 10:51. There’s still no parking during the hours of 8am to 11pm. You’ll get a ticket, even after the street sweeper has come.

The cost of parking tickets help offset other things the city needs.  Tickets are a form of optional revenue enforcement; if you don’t want to pay the fine, you move your car. This councilman has gotten somewhere around ten or twelve. That’s pretty stupid. And so is throwing a tantrum and threatening to tear up the ticket and resign if he can’t get a law passed to stop the ticketing. Wow.

But in the council meeting, Dwyer decided against shredding the ticket because he felt it was a

bit theatrical. 

However is he standing firm on the platform that he’ll resign if street sweeping rules aren’t changed. At this afternoon’s meeting meeting, reports the Orange County Register, Dwyer said:

To me it is just a revenue generator. If I can’t effect change as a City Council member, why would I bother even being here?

Councilperson Cathy Green explained that if parking officers didn’t give out tickets, cars wouldn’t be moved. Street sweeping picks up over 5,000 tons of trash and debris from Huntington Beach streets, and the tickets issued for interfering cars don’t cover the cost of street sweeping or the parking enforcement officers; the revenue does go into the city’s general fun.

Councilperson Green said:

Frankly, I get your frustration but I think when you settle down and really think about the purpose of street cleaning, it will go a little way to assuage your rage.

Fellow councilmember Joe Carchio issued the most compelling statement of the session, a sentiment seemingly echoed by many in the city:

I think that if you got enough of these tickets, you would learn

108 Responses to "Crybaby Councilman May Resign Over Parking Tickets"
Lisa Derrick | Tuesday October 6, 2009 07:59 pm 1

Laaaaaaaaaaate night. And we’ve all gotten parking tickets, but this guy, what a whiner!


Suzanne | Tuesday October 6, 2009 08:02 pm 2

lisa! let me guess – this fool is thinking that IOKIYAR applies on the local level?


DrDick | Tuesday October 6, 2009 08:03 pm 3

I think this is what you call a slow learner. The overwhelming sense of privileged entitlement is rather “cute”.


Lisa Derrick | Tuesday October 6, 2009 08:03 pm 4

I sorta hope he’sa republican…


Teddy Partridge | Tuesday October 6, 2009 08:05 pm 5

I hate people who don’t move their cars on street-sweeping day, because the street-sweepers make a BIG detour around the cars. Lots of trash and debris gets left behind. They should be imprisoned, not on any City Council!


Lisa Derrick | Tuesday October 6, 2009 08:06 pm 6

Well Dwyer was endorsed by a republican…Tom Harmon, a state senator


Suzanne | Tuesday October 6, 2009 08:06 pm 7

dood needs to have the boot placed on his car and it towed next time he parks illegally.


DrDick | Tuesday October 6, 2009 08:06 pm 8
In response to Lisa Derrick @ 4

Teh Googlez sez he is!


Lisa Derrick | Tuesday October 6, 2009 08:07 pm 9
In response to Teddy Partridge @ 5

It’s $60 here and sometimes we forget what day of th week we are on, and so we’ve all gotten tickets in this household, but hey, it’s city revenue


Lisa Derrick | Tuesday October 6, 2009 08:08 pm 10
In response to Lisa Derrick @ 9

taxes are the foundation of a civil society and parking tickets are just a form of voluntary taxation


Suzanne | Tuesday October 6, 2009 08:09 pm 11

should not do the crime unless ya can pay the fine (or words to that effect)


DrDick | Tuesday October 6, 2009 08:10 pm 12
In response to Lisa Derrick @ 10

The stupid tax.


Lisa Derrick | Tuesday October 6, 2009 08:11 pm 13

I used to be really irresponsible about my parking tickets, but um, I;d rather spend the money on mani pedis nowadays


Teddy Partridge | Tuesday October 6, 2009 08:11 pm 14
In response to Suzanne @ 7

In the crusher (his car, not him).


Teddy Partridge | Tuesday October 6, 2009 08:13 pm 15

Rich neighborhoods in SF get street-sweeping twice a week, but our poor neighborhood which is also a city-level freeway gets wiped once a week, and not very well. Especially when douchebags forget and leave their cars out! I mean, it’s at noon on Tuesday, when our earthquake test sirens go off — how hard can it be to move their cars.

I don’t have a car, so I’m a hater now I guess.


Suzanne | Tuesday October 6, 2009 08:14 pm 16
In response to Teddy Partridge @ 14

IF the municipal code is written in such a way that IF the vehicle can only be redeemed from car jail IF the owner of the vehicle pays all parking tickets and the cost of the tow and storage incurred. IF the owner does not do so, depending on how the codes are written, the vehicle COULD be lien sold by the tow company to pay off said outstanding obligations.

lotta ifs but….


Lisa Derrick | Tuesday October 6, 2009 08:14 pm 17

He is really pathetic, and a the majority of folks who took the O Rgiser poll feel the same way. I mean, he has pretty much used up his air time and for selfish, stupid reason.


EvilDrPuma | Tuesday October 6, 2009 08:17 pm 18

I don’t know what we’re supposed to do with all the right-wing jerkwads who don’t feel like they should have to live in a society. There just isn’t enough wilderness left for all of them to live in the rough.


Lisa Derrick | Tuesday October 6, 2009 08:17 pm 19

In LA City, if your car has 5 unpaid tickets go to delinquent, you will get booted or towed, and you have to get to DMV, pay tickets, then either go to tow yard or back to your booted vehicle. If tow yard, you pay them CASH, if boot, not sur ewho you pay (thankfully I havent had that problem)


Lisa Derrick | Tuesday October 6, 2009 08:18 pm 20

I think Dwyer has lost his chance to run for higher office because he has proven himself tooooo effing stoopid


DrDick | Tuesday October 6, 2009 08:18 pm 21
In response to EvilDrPuma @ 18

We could drop them in small groups into the middle of the Bob Marshall Wilderness up here. I am sure that the grizzlies and mountain lions would enjoy the snack.


Suzanne | Tuesday October 6, 2009 08:20 pm 22
In response to Lisa Derrick @ 19

some cities has their code written so that vehicles parked in no parking zones are automatically impounded.

costs a lot more than just a fine to get the car outta car jail and tends to teach the don’t park here when posted lesson pretty quickly.


Lisa Derrick | Tuesday October 6, 2009 08:20 pm 23

Sweeping keeps trash and debris out of our storm water drains and thus keeps the ocean clean. Dwyer campaigned in part on a policy of “clean beaches and water!”


marymccurnin | Tuesday October 6, 2009 08:21 pm 24
In response to Teddy Partridge @ 5

but, but I got a ticket for that in Berkeley last year. I am sooooooooooooo sorry, Teddy.


ratfood | Tuesday October 6, 2009 08:21 pm 25
In response to Teddy Partridge @ 14

I was thinking the same thing. Haul ‘em off and cube ‘em. You could even say you were only going to do it to every tenth car. All but the most hardcore gamblers would get theirs the hell out of the way.


marymccurnin | Tuesday October 6, 2009 08:23 pm 26
In response to marymccurnin @ 24

But I do live in the boonies. I have so much to learn.


DrDick | Tuesday October 6, 2009 08:23 pm 27

All but the most hardcore gamblers would get theirs the hell out of the way.

You forgot the Republicans with an overdeveloped sense of entitlement.


marymccurnin | Tuesday October 6, 2009 08:24 pm 28

You know you are in trouble when you reply to yourself.


AZ Matt | Tuesday October 6, 2009 08:24 pm 29
In response to Teddy Partridge @ 15

A scar you will have to bear all your life.


ThingsComeUndone | Tuesday October 6, 2009 08:25 pm 30

This guy thinks he’s the first Mayor Daley ?


Suzanne | Tuesday October 6, 2009 08:26 pm 31
In response to marymccurnin @ 28

naw, that’s just an i forgot this. my rule is i know i’m in trouble when i make 4 comments in a row and no one else has said anything.


ratfood | Tuesday October 6, 2009 08:27 pm 32
In response to DrDick @ 21

Did you have a car when you lived in Chicago (on Halsted?)? My friend who lived on Racine had a space behind the apartment house but parking on the street near Wrigley was a total hassle.


punaise | Tuesday October 6, 2009 08:28 pm 33

fit him with a Denver boot.


marymccurnin | Tuesday October 6, 2009 08:29 pm 34
In response to Suzanne @ 31

If I try to fill in the spaces when no one has made a comment for five minutes or so does that make me co-dependent?


ratfood | Tuesday October 6, 2009 08:29 pm 35
In response to Suzanne @ 22

I’m of the opinion that people who live in cities should be required to use a pogo stick for transportation.


EvilDrPuma | Tuesday October 6, 2009 08:30 pm 36
In response to punaise @ 33

If that’s anything like a Denver omelette, it’s delicious!


DrDick | Tuesday October 6, 2009 08:31 pm 37
In response to ratfood @ 32

I actually was on Clifton, a block east of Racine, just south of Roscoe (about two blocks north of Belmont). I did have a car, but I only drove to the store because finding a parking place could be a real hassle. You never, ever drove during a Cubs game or on weekend evenings (because of the bar crowds).


ratfood | Tuesday October 6, 2009 08:31 pm 38
In response to punaise @ 33

John, Bob, or Pyle?


posaune | Tuesday October 6, 2009 08:32 pm 39

You know, in DC (Capitol Hill) they started alternate side parking for street cleaning on our block.
I have NEVER, EVER seen a street cleaner. My take: they can get their alternate side parking when I get my NY cuban coffee, greek diner (Burger Joint on 76th Street), Emir’s Falafel, Fairway, The Strand, Symphony Space, etc. etc.

(sigh).


posaune | Tuesday October 6, 2009 08:33 pm 40

Totally OT:

The Twins won. Is Al Franken throwing out the first ball?


ratfood | Tuesday October 6, 2009 08:33 pm 41
In response to DrDick @ 37

Seems like a lot of the streets prohibited parking on game days. At least you had close proximity to the El.


punaise | Tuesday October 6, 2009 08:34 pm 42

our Berkeley neighborhood usually has enough parking, but it fills up on Sundays and Friday nights due to church activities down the block. One Friday evening, tired after a long week at work, I could find no parking spaces. However, across the street someone had blatantly parked so as to straddle two obvious (marked) spaces. My billet doux on the windshield read something like:

Congratulations – on an evening where parking is hard to come by, you managed to occupy two spaces with your one car. Was this due to crushing incompetence or a willful disregard of the common good? FAIL!

That said, I really should just ride my bike. It’s only 1.25 miles to work.


Lisa Derrick | Tuesday October 6, 2009 08:35 pm 43
In response to posaune @ 40

it’s late night–no topic!


ratfood | Tuesday October 6, 2009 08:36 pm 44
In response to punaise @ 42

1.25 miles, good pogo-ing distance.


DrDick | Tuesday October 6, 2009 08:36 pm 45
In response to ratfood @ 41

Yeah, I was about 4 blocks from the El which made it easy to get around. IIRC there were some game day restrictions for night games, but not day games (It has been almost 12 years since I lived there).


PJEvans | Tuesday October 6, 2009 08:37 pm 46

LA will ticket you if you’re parked in the street-sweeping zone. Fortunately they don’t usually do both sides of a street on the same day.

Doesn’t this guy have someplace else he can park, or is he just too lazy to move his vehicle – I’m betting it’s a big pickup or an SUV – on the days the sweeper comes through? (Also, I have co-workers whose opinions on HtB are less than flattering of the city management, for other reasons entirely.)


ratfood | Tuesday October 6, 2009 08:38 pm 47
In response to DrDick @ 45

Wow, you must’ve moved out around the same time my friend did. The town just hasn’t been the same without you guys…


Legion303 | Tuesday October 6, 2009 08:41 pm 48
In response to Lisa Derrick @ 9

That’s a pretty hefty fine, and even though I’m no fan of confusing “no parking on the first Tuesday of blah blah blah” regulations, I think I’d learn to mark my calendar after the first ticket or two. But then, I’m no councilman.


EvilDrPuma | Tuesday October 6, 2009 08:42 pm 49

Clearly, Devin Dwyer is one of the Special People. Unfortunately, the Special People often neglect to inform mere peons like us that they are Special People and entitled to privileges above and beyond those awarded to ordinary members of society. I think we should start a fund to tattoo the Special People across the forehead and save us all a spot of confusion.


DrDick | Tuesday October 6, 2009 08:43 pm 50
In response to ratfood @ 47

Heh. Yeah, I moved to Montana in August of ‘98. Best thing I ever did, though I do miss some things about Chicago (though not the crowds or traffic).


Lisa Derrick | Tuesday October 6, 2009 08:44 pm 51
In response to Legion303 @ 48

and he works at home so like why does he have the inability to dealwith this? because he’s narcissistic dodo


DrDick | Tuesday October 6, 2009 08:44 pm 52
In response to EvilDrPuma @ 49

Tatooing is too expensive. Just brand them with a big “S” on their forehead.


Teddy Partridge | Tuesday October 6, 2009 08:44 pm 53
In response to punaise @ 42

Households with two cars and different schedules often took up two spots in Noe Valley when I lived there, in order to save the other spot for the later-arriving spousal unit. That note of yours rings a bell.


AZ Matt | Tuesday October 6, 2009 08:45 pm 54
In response to EvilDrPuma @ 49

A very sensible idea in one inch high letters branded on their foreheads – I am really special so kiss my ass!


demi | Tuesday October 6, 2009 08:45 pm 55

Hey, honeys, I’m home.
Lisa, the part where you pay attention instead of paying the fine and then have the money for manis and pedis is the fun part of getting mature. There’s also the leftover, not used pot money to spend on going out to dinner or buying yourself a bouquet of flowers.


Lisa Derrick | Tuesday October 6, 2009 08:46 pm 56

LOL demi!


EvilDrPuma | Tuesday October 6, 2009 08:46 pm 57
In response to AZ Matt @ 54

It’s a good thing the Special People tend to have high foreheads.


EvilDrPuma | Tuesday October 6, 2009 08:47 pm 58
In response to demi @ 55

I often find that when I spend the pot money, dinner follows soon after. Or at least a snack.


marymccurnin | Tuesday October 6, 2009 08:48 pm 59

Here is an idea.
mass transit.


Legion303 | Tuesday October 6, 2009 08:48 pm 60
In response to EvilDrPuma @ 49

“I think we should start a fund to tattoo the Special People across the forehead”

I second this, as long as the tattoo is done frat-boy style to drunken, comatose friends. A tattoo of a penis, to be exact.


demi | Tuesday October 6, 2009 08:48 pm 61
In response to Teddy Partridge @ 53

I’m all for gender inclusive language, but spousal unit is just a tad robotic for my sensabilities. But, go ahead.


AZ Matt | Tuesday October 6, 2009 08:49 pm 62

BLOCK Letters of course!


NorskeFlamethrower | Tuesday October 6, 2009 08:50 pm 63

AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND…

Citizen Lisa Derrik and the Firepup Freedom Fighters:

As an alum of UC Irvine it’s nice to know that the social psychology of Orange County, including the propensity to lunacy, has not changed in the 33 years since I last set foot in the place. Oh my, Sister Lisa, how DO you handle the place…must be good music and much drugs.

Well, since I’m old and retired now and jest finished celebratin’ the Twins win over Detroit I gotta get go ta bed so I ken get up with the puppies at the buttcrack a dawn.

KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION, THOSE DAMNED DEATH PANELS ARE AFTER ME!!


demi | Tuesday October 6, 2009 08:51 pm 64
In response to EvilDrPuma @ 58

My problem has always been, it’s more like after, let the grazing begin!


AZ Matt | Tuesday October 6, 2009 08:51 pm 65

Somehow I doubt if Teddy refers to his special guy as a spousal unit. That won’t get him to far.


EvilDrPuma | Tuesday October 6, 2009 08:51 pm 66
In response to demi @ 64

Moo!


marymccurnin | Tuesday October 6, 2009 08:52 pm 67
In response to Legion303 @ 60

as long as the tattoo is done frat-boy style to drunken, comatose friends.

I don’t know where you live but tattoos in this day and age are done in the light of day. Two people I know have multiple tattooes done in the Asian style. This is normal.


demi | Tuesday October 6, 2009 08:52 pm 68
In response to NorskeFlamethrower @ 63

I could be wrong, again, but Lisa doesn’t live in Orange County.


ratfood | Tuesday October 6, 2009 08:53 pm 69
In response to demi @ 64

So demi, have you managed to get all the sand out of your… (pause) shoes yet?


EvilDrPuma | Tuesday October 6, 2009 08:53 pm 70
In response to demi @ 68

Orange County is mostly for the Special People, isn’t it?


ratfood | Tuesday October 6, 2009 08:56 pm 71
In response to demi @ 68

If I had my druthers I think I’d rather live in Orang County.


demi | Tuesday October 6, 2009 08:57 pm 72
In response to ratfood @ 69

Hardee har har. My feet are still sore in some places from all of the dancing. And, I did take a moment, right before the wedding to think of you and imagine everyone with their clothes off. It’s an old theatre trick.


DrDick | Tuesday October 6, 2009 08:58 pm 73

Time for me to toddle off. Theory seminar tomorrow with a generous helping of grounded theory, scripts and schemas, post-structuralism, and agency theory. Take care all.


foxman | Tuesday October 6, 2009 08:58 pm 74

In the town where I live (Evanston, IL) there’s a very simple system of alternate side of street parking for street cleaning in Summer and snow plowing in Winter. I’m lucky to have a driveway and garage, so I don’t have to think about. Other neighbors will notice somebody’s car in the wrong place on the wrong day and go ring the doorbell to remind the owner. It’s nice.
When somebody fails to move their car after a big snowstorm, the plows have to make a wide berth around them and it screws up driving and parking on the block for a week. Parking tickets are not enough punishment.

Also, I was once forced to go to Huntington Beach (as a member of the 6th Army Band) to play for the 4th of July parade (19-forking-76) and I have to say that I have never encountered a more snot nosed attitude of entitlement anywhere in the U.S. That’s saying a lot, as I grew up in Chicago’s northern, lakeside, suburbs (The North Shore.)

Boot the SOB’s car, tow it and make him pay for his antisocial attitude.


ratfood | Tuesday October 6, 2009 08:59 pm 75
In response to demi @ 72

Did you save me some cake?


ratfood | Tuesday October 6, 2009 08:59 pm 76
In response to DrDick @ 73

G’nite, DrDick.


Lisa Derrick | Tuesday October 6, 2009 09:00 pm 77
In response to NorskeFlamethrower @ 63

I’m actually not in OC, but sometimes I have to drive through it! UCI was built after the college demonstrations and is designed to prevent massing of demonstrators and allow ready spread of troops


Lisa Derrick | Tuesday October 6, 2009 09:00 pm 78

Night DrDick!


prostratedragon | Tuesday October 6, 2009 09:01 pm 79
In response to Suzanne @ 22

some cities has their code written so that vehicles parked in no parking zones are automatically impounded.

Downtown Chicago, at least before the present Morgan Stanley era. Three minutes over on a Dearborn St meter with soneome in the car, and you-all will (or perhaps would’ve been) be hiking to Lower Wacker, a couple $00s cash in pocket, to get the thing back and go home.


demi | Tuesday October 6, 2009 09:01 pm 80
In response to ratfood @ 75

I have the whole top layer. Thought I’d play Marie Antoinette and take it to the homeless shelter. And, yes, I know, that’s not what she said, exactly.


Legion303 | Tuesday October 6, 2009 09:01 pm 81
In response to marymccurnin @ 67

No, no, I was referring to the frat-boy prank of drawing dicks on their “friends’ ” faces with a Sharpie when said “friend” is passed out drunk.


ratfood | Tuesday October 6, 2009 09:01 pm 82
In response to foxman @ 74

I thought in Evanston only the servants parked on the street. “g”


eCAHNomics | Tuesday October 6, 2009 09:02 pm 83

For Orange County, any excuse to do anything is good enuf.


ratfood | Tuesday October 6, 2009 09:03 pm 84
In response to demi @ 80

Yeah, ’cause it was probably something in French.


demi | Tuesday October 6, 2009 09:06 pm 85
In response to EvilDrPuma @ 66

Dude, do you, like, work out?


marymccurnin | Tuesday October 6, 2009 09:07 pm 86

Hey Guess what! Ron and I are being written about in a French magazine. Capital. The photo dood is coming tomorrow to take pics.


demi | Tuesday October 6, 2009 09:08 pm 87
In response to ratfood @ 84

Mais, oui Antointette.
(with apologies to Punaise)


eCAHNomics | Tuesday October 6, 2009 09:09 pm 88
In response to marymccurnin @ 86

Interesting. Please link when article’s available.


demi | Tuesday October 6, 2009 09:09 pm 89
In response to marymccurnin @ 86

Awesome. Does Ron get to photo shop?


foxman | Tuesday October 6, 2009 09:10 pm 90
In response to ratfood @ 82

That is SO mean!
A few blocks over from mine is Central Park Ave. Very nice mansions (by local standards, not to be compared with California style affluence.)
My street is all little bungalows and cottages, a remnant of the days when city (Chicago) folk had a little summer cottage “out in the country.”


ratfood | Tuesday October 6, 2009 09:10 pm 91
In response to marymccurnin @ 86

Cool, hopefully they’ll have an online version available when it’s done. Do they send a French photographer or contract somebody local?


ratfood | Tuesday October 6, 2009 09:12 pm 92
In response to foxman @ 90

Evanston is pretty nifty. Friends and I used to go relax on the lake shore at the Northwestern campus after concerts.


cinnamonape | Tuesday October 6, 2009 09:14 pm 93

I think it would be sweet justice if the other Councilpeople kept telling the blowhard that they would amend ordinance in order to keep him on the Council. Put it on the agenda and everything….and then put the “tow after six tickets” rule in.

I do think that one should be able to park in the zone AFTER the street sweeper has passed by, though. At the very least the police should only ticket in the fore of the sweeper. Of course, the police might not want to get up when the street sweepers begin work. But maybe the sweepers should keep some sort of records if they were impeded (maybe have a little camera which can photograph the violators license plate) so that someone could protest if they parked in the spot after the sweeper made their rounds.


ratfood | Tuesday October 6, 2009 09:15 pm 94

Heading out, splendid evening to all.


Lisa Derrick | Tuesday October 6, 2009 09:16 pm 95

night rat!


marymccurnin | Tuesday October 6, 2009 09:16 pm 96
In response to ratfood @ 91

Local dood. Sounded about ten.


demi | Tuesday October 6, 2009 09:19 pm 97

Sweet dreams, Rat.


Margot | Tuesday October 6, 2009 09:21 pm 98
In response to marymccurnin @ 86

Can’t wait!


demi | Tuesday October 6, 2009 09:22 pm 99
In response to Margot @ 98

Thanks for the compliment last night. I’d already headed out, but saw it this morning. You’re very kind.


demi | Tuesday October 6, 2009 09:24 pm 100
In response to marymccurnin @ 96

I’m still amazed that you guys haven’t had more coverage. You’re the Poster People for what’s happening.


SunnyNobility | Tuesday October 6, 2009 09:26 pm 101

Everything I know about ignoring parking rules I learned in college. Draconian fines and enforcement mechanisms.


demi | Tuesday October 6, 2009 09:32 pm 102

There’s a lull. Shall we talk about sex some more?


Suzanne | Tuesday October 6, 2009 09:32 pm 103

this dood seems to think he is above the law. i’m a’hoping a bench warrant gets issued.


SunnyNobility | Tuesday October 6, 2009 09:36 pm 104
In response to Suzanne @ 103

Yeah. What should they tell the children ;


Suzanne | Tuesday October 6, 2009 09:43 pm 105

do as i say – not as i do


Margot | Tuesday October 6, 2009 09:44 pm 106
In response to demi @ 99

It was a lovely photo!


djfourmoney | Wednesday October 7, 2009 02:22 am 107
In response to DrDick @ 27

And Orange County is FULL of them. They don’t call it the “Orange Curtain” for nothing.


Knut | Wednesday October 7, 2009 05:27 am 108
In response to EvilDrPuma @ 49

Speaking of Special People. Remember when Tom Delay was reminded by a concierge at the Smithsonian that he would have to take his cigar outside to smoke it, because it was the government rule, and Delay just kept smoking and told the man, ‘I am the government’?


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