Comments on: Bill Clinton: “I Was Wrong About Gay Marriage”

By: Cellar47

Cellar47 — Sun, 27 Sep 2009 13:41:07 +0000

There’s nothign abstract about it at all. Married breeders have THOUSANDS of rights that are denied me and my lover of 38 years.

There’s nothing “magical” involved. It’s quite concrete, as a moments reflection (which you obviously don’t wish to take) would make plain. “Let the State deciode” would be fine if the same-ses marriages that take place in Massachusetts were reconized in California.

WHAT DO YOU NEED? FLASH CARDS?

“The right to have your marriage recognized as such in any state is a constitutional right if ANY marriage recognition is.”

It should be. But DOMA trumps that. And it will remian trumped until DOMA is repealed.

“To suggest that gay married couples need to live in fear of geography is insane and manifestly unequal.”

WELCOME TO THE INSANE AND MANIFESTLY UNEQUAL WORLD LGBT TAXPAYERS LIVE IN!

Why not try thinking about walking a mile in my shoes? And in preparation for doing so READ THIS!

By: Clavis

Clavis — Sun, 27 Sep 2009 13:26:44 +0000

What makes a piece of paper issued from the government of a state any less abstract or symbolic or bureaucratic or ephemeral than a piece of paper issued from the federal government.

The whole concept of states being a magical, all-wise level of government (as opposed to the fed) is idiotic. We’re in the 21st century. We don’t need to organize our government to deal with handwritten correspondence taking weeks to move from city to city and local delegates being unable to communicate with constituents and staff while they’re in the capital. I have no problem with the concept of successive levels of localization, but too many arguments become “LET THE STATE DECIDE!”

Really? Then maybe we need to re-apportion state populations, or divide some states up. Because I don’t see the citizens of California being served by their wise state government, for example.

The right to have your marriage recognized as such in any state is a constitutional right if ANY marriage recognition is. People with straight marriage certificates issued in Florida don’t have to panic if they’re in a car accident just over the Alabama border because Alabama hospitals might not recognize their shared medical or end-of-life-decision rights.

To suggest that gay married couples need to live in fear of geography is insane and manifestly unequal.

By: TexasReader

TexasReader — Sun, 27 Sep 2009 11:46:54 +0000

Former Presidents always say what they should have done because they did not have the political chutzpah to do it while in office. It is called trying to rehabilitate your Presidency. Jimmy Carter leads the pack at trying to do that. Note to Jimmy Carter, when you are in a hole stop digging.

Nixon was a crook so he did not care to rehabilitate his Presidency.

By: Millineryman

Millineryman — Sun, 27 Sep 2009 04:00:05 +0000

I could care less what Bill Clinton has to say. He couldn’t be man enough to admit that he had an affair, and was stupid enought to give the Republicans the rope they almost hanged him with. I could careless about the infamous cause of the stained dress but when you have an independent prosecutor nipping at your heals, and you something that you lie about under oath, you’re an idiot.

Thanks Lane, and honestly I’m tired of excuses. He could’ve vetoed DOMA and had the Senate over ride him.

By: upstateNYerMdwst

upstateNYerMdwst — Sun, 27 Sep 2009 03:23:34 +0000

He DID NOT go far enough unfortunately. He said that “he personally” believes in marriage equality, but I did not hear him DEMAND that the Dems eliminate DOMA, DADT, and pass ENDA. True, this wouldn’t have an impact on individual States, but Clinton needs to own DOMA and say he screwed up big time and demand a repeal of it. The States shall follow, one by one… I am confident of this. Why? Because we younger folk are overwhelmingly in favor of marrige equality, and guess who’s going to be running all of the States in 10-20 years!

By: zeabow

zeabow — Sun, 27 Sep 2009 03:03:40 +0000

oh shit o forgot to bite my lower lip … bite it, now make eye contact with the audience. yeah, that oughta do it …

bill clinton

By: zeabow

zeabow — Sun, 27 Sep 2009 03:02:50 +0000

oh shit, I forgot to bite my lower lip … bite it, now look at the audience. yeah that oughta do it.

bill clinton

By: Cellar47

Cellar47 — Sun, 27 Sep 2009 03:02:04 +0000

Big Dog was always adept at copping a feel.

By: zeabow

zeabow — Sun, 27 Sep 2009 03:01:17 +0000

pause … bite lower lip

to self: that ought to do it, these dumbass limousine liberals are so fucking stupid, they fall for this silly shit every time.

bill clinton

By: zeabow

zeabow — Sun, 27 Sep 2009 02:57:34 +0000

But I feel you.

bill clinton